THE HARD TRUTH: BLACKS HATE WHITE PEOPLE

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WAS KING'S DREAM TO HATE WHITEY?

WAS KING'S DREAM TO HATE WHITEY?

Andrew Breitbart wants to destroy the leftwing mainstream media. Angry White Dude wants to destroy political correctness. I’ve never been much at pretending or lying and I have too much self-respect to fool myself into thinking something is when it is not or is not when it is. That was one of the reasons this blog was started.

Rassmussen released a poll today titled Voters Are Much Less Optimistic About Black-White Relations. The report states that just 36% of voters now say relations between blacks and whites are getting better, down from 62% last year. Here’s the kicker, thirty-nine percent (39%) of whites think black-white race relations are getting better, but just 13% of blacks agree. While that will surprise a lot of liberals, it really is no surprise at all.

While it will chill the blood of liberals, AWD will break it down for you: Black people hate white people. Certainly, there are some who have broken the hate for whites that nearly every black person learns from an early age. But nearly every black person in America has an ingrained hatred for white people. Black people can be civil towards whites in work and at play but never let yourself believe your black acquaintances don’t really hate your white guts deep down.

How do I know this? Simple! I have made the same comment to black acquaintances of mine and they were honest enough to answer that I was correct. Just yesterday, I had a conversation with two professional black men I like very much and consider to be friends…not extremely close friends…but friends nonetheless. Our conversation began on politics but quickly jumped to race relations in the United States. Both are staunch Democrats and view the tea party movement (which they know I am a part of) as a racist group. Both support Obama and big government even though, as I explained, the government takes money from their pockets as producers and gives it to moochers. I mentioned that I believe white people embrace the dream of a race-neutral society of Martin Luther King more than blacks. Most white people do not understand why in the year 2010 there is a NAACP, BET, Miss Black Universe, etc. I believe most white people try to judge others on their actions. Both black friends believed that another white friend present and I were beneficiaries of white privilege. My friend explained that he was not granted school loans because he was white when he came from a very poor single-parent home. After he graduated, he took a state police exam where the highest 300 scores were accepted. 1100 took the test. My white friend’s score was 179. He was in. Right? Wrong! After the state applied the race curve that improved the scores of lower scoring minorities, my friend’s rank was in the 800s. No job with the state police. What did he do wrong? He was white. I mentioned to my black friends that I cannot do business with local city and counties because they prefer and accept bids from minority contractors, even though they cannot compete on a service or price basis with the company where I am employed. So much for white privilege! My black friends said there were many years where blacks were treated unfairly by Jim Crow laws and it was payback for those times. My white friend asked how long he and his son and future white generations would have to pay for things done before he was born? Very few blacks who suffered under Jim Crow laws are even alive today and certainly the young black thugs who commit such a great number of crimes today was ever a slave or forced to drink out of a separate water fountain.

We then discussed the actions of young blacks today and if black Americans were better off today than they were in the sixties before the Great Society reparations began? I said I believe you cannot give someone something for nothing and expect any good to come from it. Generations of blacks have now been told they are victims, whites are evil and blacks are entitled to free money, housing and everything else when very few blacks alive today have ever faced systematic discrimination. If they have faced discrimination it is because responsible blacks are grouped with the great many blacks in America that cause such tremendous crime and problems. I also added that if I was held responsible for actions I did not commit by members of my race long ago, shouldn’t it be fair for my two black friends to be held responsible for the black thugs and criminals? It’s simple logic but not so easy under the laws of political correctness.

50 years of welfare, social programs and excuses has had a tremendously negative effect on the black race in America. Blacks under perform nearly across the board when compared with other races. Why? Political correctness, liberal politics, ignorance and hate. It is easier for blacks, as a whole, to blame their station in society on white people for slavery than it is to blame themselves for making bad life decisions. Most people who are not black are taught actions have consequences. Young blacks are taught they can do or say whatever and they will be excused. This is why we are seeing a growing number of brazen attacks by groups of young blacks on whites these days. These young black thugs believe there will be no consequences. But there are consequences, even in the ridiculous world of political correctness. That is why such a large percentage of prisoners are black. Political correctness tells us it’s because of racist judges, police and laws…but the realistic know it is simply because so many blacks commit crimes.

Look at how so many young blacks look and act today. Wearing pants below their asses, tattoos, speaking filthy language or ebonics, loud, immoral, violent, sullen…..it that what Martin Luther King dreamed?

So it’s no surprise for me to read of Obama saying the police in Boston “acted stupidly” when they did not in arresting a belligerent, trash-talking black Harvard professor, or Eric Holder for not prosecuting hate crimes or discrimination when blacks are the perpetrators. A quick glance on Drudge Report today tells of a black judge who rejected a plea agreement for a white youth because it, in his words, “a ridiculous plea that only goes to white boys.” And you better believe a black community organizer who studied at the feet of the racist Reverend Wright for twenty years hates whitey too. It’s what blacks are taught. It is the elephant in the room that nobody wants to acknowledge. Certainly not PC liberals!

I don’t know if blacks can ever escape the ghetto mentality of white hatred that is so ingrained in their community. But I know this….blacks are the only ones who can help blacks. I am not responsible for slavery any more than my honorable black friends are responsible for Beat Whitey Night at the Iowa state fair. I cannot save blacks nor can my tax dollars. Hatred, violence, ignorance and laziness is the hallmark of the American black race in general. Many have escaped the chains of ghetto culture to enjoy the benefits of hard work, sacrifice, achievement and wealth. But far too many are chained to poverty and ignorance by the slave master….and they don’t even realize the slave master is black!

I’m glad so many white people are starting to let their voices be heard concerning racial issues. Political correctness has for too long forced us to sit back like whipped dogs and not comment or complain about what we see going on around us lest we be racist. Why must we walk on eggshells to not offend the perpetually offended when their actions are offensive!?! Nuts to that! Say it loud, I’m not politically correct and proud!

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483 Responses to THE HARD TRUTH: BLACKS HATE WHITE PEOPLE

  1. Here is the problem (as I see it)….while there are claims of racism all through these posts, there is in fact much truth also. Because you are a racist does not mean you are wrong. It doesn’t mean you are right either. At it’s basic level, people like to be with people like themselves. There is comfort there. This also means there will always be a bit of racism present. What we do with the racism is what matters.
    In my experience (54 years old), I have witnessed very little racism towards blacks (I live in the west). For the sake of relevancy, I am referring to the past quarter century. On the contrary, I have witnessed many racist events/comments from blacks toward whites–from all spectrum’s of black culture. This is not an official survey, but my experience has caused me to believe that there is in fact much more hatred of whites by blacks than there is the reverse.
    The many black arguments on this post are valid, and so are the many white arguments. Impasse occurs when one side refuses to acknowledge the truths on the other side.
    What are blacks still fighting for exactly? What “struggle” are they pursuing? How will we know when it is achieved? Many whites believe that the special scholarships, quotas, contractual set-asides for the past 50 years has been sufficient. That the only thing holding blacks down is in fact a fractured black culture without morals or structure to be successful in a modern western society.
    Listening to black supremacists (notably some popular Reverends), it seems to me that the goal of blacks is not to integrate into our multicultural society, but to segregate, pitting blacks against whites in order to grow power and wealth. How can this possibly be productive for a multicultural society? This is not what white children are raised to believe. They are raised to believe we are all equal and Americans. Of course, there the ignorant exceptions, but they are not the general rule.
    How to fix the problem? I am not an expert, but my guess is that the first correct step would be to emphasize the things that are similar and remove the things that are different. We are Americans. My experience in the military showed me that this is a good start. We were all Marines first. While there were racial problems from time to time, they were very few, and most were fairly nonviolent. We don’t need white or black organizations or holidays…they are divisive…be honest with yourself. It seems to me that any efforts toward unity are undermined by these PC attempts to highlight a particular culture in our multicultural society. But alas, we will not see a change like this, for their is much power and wealth in racial politics.
    Blacks need to acknowledge that their culture contributes to high incidence of unwed mothers, low education, violence etc…Whites need to accept that the Civil War, Jim Crow etc. had a very negative and real impact on blacks. While the civil rights field may have been leveled, it may take a few more generations for blacks to overcome past injury and excel. But it won’t happen with the hateful black theology imbedded in the culture. There must be change in the victim mindset, and whites must be patient.
    In the end, white America doesn’t “owe” black Americans anything. This view is where the hate begins. Current white Americans are not responsible for slavery or Jim Crow…no more than blacks are. A substantial majority of whites favor multiculturalism, but not if it comes with a “payback” mentality from minority groups.
    People have always been used by those that seek power, wealth and fame. If unity is your goal, then reject the racial politics and the people that use it as a means of employment.
    Look, ours is a meirtocracy society. If you look for a handout, you are out of step, and can expect derision. If you work hard and educate yourself, you can expect success. I don’t know anyone who works hard and is educated that does not also have a job.
    Life is full of negatives for all people. It’s cowardly and wrong to blame another race for your own failures. It is too convenient to use a victim mentality to blame all that does not go right in your life. If you’re looking for weeds (racism) you will find them…if your looking for flowers (success) you will find them also. When I see the hate in these comments, I know it comes from frustration…I also know these are the people looking for weeds…get out of that rut, take care of your education and your family, and take the hits life will throw your way, but keep moving forward. I am not black or white, I am an American who is interested in what is best for our society as a whole, not just one racial or ethnic group.
    Our leaders will not step-up on racial issues because they will loose politically. We must start on the individual level. When you meet someone of another race on the street, smile, say hello, open a door…be polite and see if that doesn’t improve matters. One thing I learned in the Marine Corps that has sustained me…never make excuses for failure, and never fail. Regrettably, I do not believe we will ever be successful in eliminating racism–it would involve taking individual responsibility and giving-up wealth and power. In my lifetime, the only thing that has united us is war, and then only for a short time….so, without war we have racial violence and hatred among the races in America; with war we have temporary unity, but violence abroad…Is there a way to have peace and no violence?…I don’t think so.

    Pepper
    February 18, 2012 at 12:57 pm
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    • Pepper,
      AMEN!! Preach it! Spot on with almost everything you just said! You are saying exactly what I have been trying to say but you have said it in such a more profound and enlightening way… my rage ( taking it personal ) about this crap handicaps my ability to convey what I am thinking.. Im so sick of the blame.. it enrages me and makes me feel hate for those that do the blaming. I know I should not let it get to that point but I dont like being used as a scapegoat because of the lack of personal responsibility of some black folks and it frustrates me to no end to watch them live below thier potential because they have been conditioned to be nothing but perpetual victims… Im so tired of it. Its actually depressing

      Rock of the Marne
      May 11, 2012 at 8:59 am
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  2. Hi all,

    As an American, proud third generation veteran and as a fellow man. Please allow me to present this to you. Please read the book “The New Jim Crow” by Prof. Michelle Alexander. No racial innuendo just hard fact and timeline. What I hope that you will see is a big picture view of what has happened in black America over the past century.The book will help to put in historical context what amounts to a sustained militarized engagement that has swollen into a mass almost beyond grasp. No apologist bull crap here, I’m an Appalachian farm
    boy, you eat what you kill where I come from. I have been poor my entire life and have never taken welfare or even unemployment. I make do. But the fact is, the majority of welfare louts aren’t and have never been minorities. The whole “welfare mother” myth was dead wrong, 72 percent of welfare recipients were white. Half that middle class. But consider that was when there was no google. We could forgive people for not knowing that they were fed fear by politicians to condone war here and abroad. But today, we incarcerate blacks and latino’s unevenly. Doing seventy percent more time for the same crimes. We know that 60 percent of the drug dealers worth busting age 20 and up are white, 98 percent of those incarcerated are not. And thats the justice dept’s own stat. Blacks are and have been being attacked. Just the facts. You remember when cops lived in your neighb and dressed like military officers? Why do they now where bdu’s?
    After the fact there are still people who don’t know that 2500 black men are found to be not guilty yearly, on criminally errant police work and crooked judges.But seldom is the law man brought to the law. Ike warned us about the military industrial complex. Where do you think your tax money is going when they scare into passivity? And when they can no longer be satisfied with the usual scapegoat they come for everyone else. What you leave to your neighbor next knocks on your door. But more important, as Americans when has it ever served us to be divisive on race. Not to mention race doesn’t scientifically exist. We are all men, flawed and equal-f*** race. You have a right to be mad, good, we need mad American’s right now. But brother, get the facts, know the past so we all can know that is indeed behind us. And know that when we are all fully aware and angry, together, we can get back to being kick ass America. And none of us need be angry at that. I am black, and I do get angry sometimes, only because more of you aren’t there yet. Thank you for speaking up. Ooooraaahh!

    everett williams
    February 19, 2012 at 1:34 am
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    • Well said…your numbers are likely fuzzy though. I prosecuted cases for 20 years and can tell you that I never ever witnessed the police corruption that you refer to. I can tell you that without a doubt, violent crimes were largely perpetrated by a person from a minority background. In hundreds of cases, it was my decision whether the case went to trial. At no time did I let a white person go when I had the evidence to prosecute. I did not see any racism in the justice system at all. Now, of note, my experience was in military courts. Some interesting info about what we learned after prosecuting so many cases. If it was a rape case, the perp was largely a minority. If it were a meth case, the perp was white. If it were a marijuana case, the perp was black. Also, white defendants sang like birds during interviews, while black defendants would rarely talk…but not a single event of racism, none. Sometimes, I think the numbers cited by persons like you likely come from courts in the Southeaset. My guess is that there is not much of that in the western or northern US. My point is that it is necessary, when citing stats, to also cite where there are higher incidence of abuse–to avoid painting all whites or all justice systems with the same brush. This is necessary for credibility of the argument, but also to allow the proper assets to be focused on the location where the problem lies. Great comments though. I particularly found your reasoning, absent emotion, to be worthy of reading. Far too often, when reading on this topic, arguments are weakened by the obvious emotional bias of the author…

      Pepper
      February 19, 2012 at 1:58 pm
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      • This whole article is ENTIRELY biased (and uncomprehendingly stupid), because studies prove that WHITE PEOPLE are the most racist race that exists, and have you ever thought about the fact that white people STARTED racism? the black man would not hate the white man if the white man had not taken the black man from his home in Africa and sold him like a dog. If you hate black people so much, why did you bring him to America in the first place

        person
        April 18, 2012 at 5:24 pm
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        • Actually, Africans sold their own into slavery. They exported to America the dregs of their society, which are the ancestors of modern day American blacks.

          Renee
          April 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm
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        • Think whites are racist now? Wait til the Saxon really begins to hate. When we put our mind to it, NO race is better at genocide than whites and when blacks finally get their race war, it will not be pretty and we outnumber you.

          SKIP
          May 9, 2012 at 1:42 am
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  3. Well, AWD you are 100% correct, White people are being made to feel like they are bad people for the terrible things they did to the poor black people in the past, but if you look at the past, thoes black people were and still are savages!, prove me wrong!, every prison in the world is filled with blacks, the drugs and prostitution rings are run by blacks, and so are the corrupt churches!, where I live they illegaly enter the country and have their baby!, then they live off the goverment and refuse to work! all is fine untill their homeland– that has chased away all the white people– is starving, and then thoes white countries have to supply thoes poor starving african people with food again!, well I say let the buggers starve!. They hate us, so f*** them too!.

    holland516
    February 19, 2012 at 10:13 am
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  4. for the ignorant person that said we african can starve we will always survive and eat so fusk u and any other racist bastard thats down with u

    lavon
    February 19, 2012 at 6:57 pm
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    • lavon,

      Just to let you know I didn’t say that, but I thought that many times.

      Glad to say hello.

      REV

      REV Wright
      February 19, 2012 at 9:22 pm
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    • I too forget what Live Aid was aboot.

      Iano
      March 13, 2012 at 10:24 am
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    • You are a fool, the ethiopians were starving. African countries are always crying about food. How can a civilization as old as they are not know how to find/grow food or dig wells?.

      Rich
      April 2, 2012 at 9:54 pm
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    • “Fusk u” too, buddy.

      Renee
      April 20, 2012 at 1:30 pm
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  5. People who have neither suffered nor inflicted suffering in the past
    have no claims nor culpability in the present.

    All we have is the present and each other, it’s time to move on!

    Douglas Mali
    February 20, 2012 at 3:43 pm
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  6. Is that you, Willie Kostric?

    Lisa R.
    February 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm
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  7. Look in the mirror and answer this question AWD
    Who faces greater racial discrimination and hatred in America? whites or blacks. What racial group is the most oppressed in America? What racial group experiences the highest degree of police brutality and murder?

    Blacks do not go about preaching racism and racial superiority they are and have a right to be angry about hundreds of years of racism, slavery and present discrimination. the majority of racist in America and the world are whites. Adolf Hitler the biggest racist of all time is white. the biggest racist organizations in the world are white. the truth is that white people lack basic empathy and human emotion to even understand that they have not only wronged blacks but most of the world. the greatest genocide in the world is not the holocaust but the systematic eradication of native Americans. the devil can take tips from the white man on how to destroy other people.

    the gun
    March 4, 2012 at 10:06 pm
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    • the gun, thanks for your comment. Ever heard of Reverend Wright or Louis Farrakhan? Actually, it sounds like you have…you spew their nonsense perfectly!

      awd

      AWD
      March 4, 2012 at 10:07 pm
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    • Stones. Stones. I once went to a black owned carryout to buy some wine. I sat in the car while my two buddies went into the store. My car was pelted with stones. Stones thrown by blacks. My son’s first encounter with blacks involved stones thrown at him, blacks throwing stones, yelling, “Give us the bike.” He was only eight years old. My daughter was sucker punched by a black while in high school simply because she refused his sexual advances. When my wife was a teenager, she was confronted on the restroom by a group of black girls who tore a pierced earring from her ear for no reason, other than she was white.

      Toby
      May 3, 2012 at 2:49 am
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      • Toby,

        Lucky you……….

        You learned EARLY that black “culture” is an oxymoron.

        Live, and work FAR away from the black “community” [thugland]

        Have zero interaction, and you will be safe and happy.

        REV Wright
        May 10, 2012 at 12:42 am
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  8. American Blacks are the most coddled people on the planet. They get preferences in jobs, university admissions, government aid etc. Look at the billions White America has spent for welfare, housing and food stamps for all these single parent Blacks and their mulitple out-of-wedlock kids.
    Slavery and Jim Crow were from a different era and have nothing to do with Blacks today, so to say Blacks today are negatively affected by it is nonsense. The truth is today’s American Blacks have benefitted enormously from slavery, if not for past slavery, they’d be back in Africa far worse off, as opposed to living in America where Whites dote on them and cater to them because their ancestors were slaves.
    African-Americans use various themes such as slavery, Jim Crow, non-existant racism to keep Whites on an eternal guilt trip in order to continue being the most favored people on the planet. African-Americans and Blacks in general ought to give thanks to Whites for everything we’ve done for them. Everytime there is a famine, guess who is there, it is always North American Whites, European Whites etc.
    I’m sick of giving and giving to Blacks and constantly being told I’m racist. Black’s problems are soley their own fault caused by their bad or irresponsible behavior. As far as Blacks are concerned, EFF them!!!!

    carl22
    March 6, 2012 at 9:15 am
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    • This website is so sad and divisive. As an African-American that grew up in the 60′s and personally witnessed and experienced racism I object to all the racial sterotyping on here. Since Obama became president there has been such an increase in arrogance and down-right hatred and bigotry that has rared it’s ugly head in this country. African-Americans are still hated by the color of their skin and not judged by their character. My father worked 2 jobs to raise our family as did most of the African Americans in the city grew up in. Believe me there are more Anglos getting welfare and foodstamps than African-Americans. Just pray the rug is not pulled out from under you!

      BAP
      May 1, 2012 at 10:44 pm
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      • BAP, you stated “Believe me there are more Anglos getting welfare and foodstamps than African-Americans.” Not by percentage of population. Blacks account for nearly 40% of welfare recipients while making up 12% of the US population.

        Sorry you faced discrimination 50 years ago. I know a lot of people today who work 2 or more jobs to support their families. Obama hasn’t made it any easier. You keep playing that victim role!

        awd

        AWD
        May 1, 2012 at 10:54 pm
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        • Blacks ALSO account for more than 60% of all violent crime in the U.S. according to the FBI crime statistics. Blacks account for (if we can believe the same old figures for the last 30 years) 12% of the U.S. population and probably less than a tiny percentage of that black population is responsible for all the crime and BLACKS KNOW IT! They seem to think it’s cool and blacks I have met over here in Afghanistan seem to take pride in their home (Detroit) often winning the title “Murder/rape capital of the U.S.” Now why would they feel that way I wonder.

          SKIP
          May 10, 2012 at 12:49 am
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    • I grew up in the 60′s and was denied swimming lessons at an “integrated” school. 2011-still dealing with discrimination on the job. Not asking for your love and don’t need your approval. I pray you will wake up and get educated. An educated African American woman that wants just what all people want-to be able to live my life comfortably and get what I work for. Do Not Need Your Approval!!!

      BAP
      May 1, 2012 at 10:49 pm
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  9. Goes both way. Self rightousness doesn’t change the facts. Whites take advantage of every race not just blacks. So don’t think that blacks are the only race that don’t appreciate you all.

    tony
    March 11, 2012 at 7:12 am
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  10. I’m Asian and I really dislike you guys, so please acknowledge that black people aren’t the only ones who hate your guts… Keep in mind that non whites in general dislike whites.

    Sam
    March 12, 2012 at 10:44 pm
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    • Sam, it’s ok. We don’t really mind. Just make sure you put another phone book in your seat tomorrow so you can see over the wheel in your mini-van.

      awd

      AWD
      March 12, 2012 at 10:50 pm
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      • I’ll take a phone book over an extinction any day. Good luck to your future generations..

        Sam
        March 12, 2012 at 11:10 pm
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        • Sam, rots of ruck to you too! Hey, can you hurry up with my moo-shoo pork?

          awd

          AWD
          March 12, 2012 at 11:13 pm
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          • Sure, thanks for supporting our businesses so we can send our kids to university whom will compete and surpass yours..

            Sam
            March 12, 2012 at 11:30 pm
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            • Sam, this is soooo tedious. Don’t you have anything better to do? Your Asian bravado is just scaring me to death over here.

              AWD
              March 12, 2012 at 11:42 pm
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            • If Asians are so smart, why don’t you send your kids to Asian schools and live in Asia? Why do you come here and ride the coattails of Whites? If you were so smart, you wouldn’t be leaching off of Whites.

              Carl22
              March 13, 2012 at 8:12 pm
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              • So when people work harder than you and obtain great success(even when they came from nothing) that means they’re leeching off of you? Wow, thanks for making whites look dumber.

                Sam
                March 14, 2012 at 3:08 pm
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                • Geepers, I didn’t know Asians hated whites, why IS this?

                  Toby
                  May 3, 2012 at 2:59 am
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                  • HAHA Asian GIRLS/WOMEN don’t hate Whites, jez sayin!

                    SKIP
                    May 10, 2012 at 12:53 am
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                    • SKIP,

                      Where I live asian businesses watch black people like hawks when they enter thier stores but they never look at me or other white people till I get to the register.. I know a few asians that do not like black folks.. just saying… They complain about them being loud and demanding. Im not saying that they are right but sams projections of black and yellow love are simply false.

                      I dont think Sam is actually asian.. LOL he is either an angry black male or a pansy ass white liberal looking to stir the pot. They make these bogus claims in order to TRY and make white people think that EVERYONE is against them… not working here. I dated a few asian girls while living in Japan,( before meeting my wife.. ) so I can vouch for what you are saying Skip LOL

                      Rock of the Marne
                      May 11, 2012 at 9:21 am

    • Sam,

      You currently live in a country that was once owned by Native Americans and that once supported slavery. You now pay taxes to the very government that condoned this. In doing so you, like Whites and Blacks alike, now benefit from that which was created out of the misery of others.

      If you truly feel sorry for Blacks and for Native Americans you would sooner move back to Asia than pay taxes to a government that usurped power from the original owners of the land (Native Americans), and that once supported the slavery of Blacks. If you stay then you are choosing to support a racist regime, and like the Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, and your fellow Asians who continue to stay, benefit from that which was created out of the misery of others.

      If Whites, Hispanics, Blacks, and Asians truly want good for the Native American people they would leave the Americas so that the Natives could return to a way of living prior to that of the occupation of their land. If Whites, Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics cared for Blacks they would no longer live in or pay taxes to governments of the Americas. They would return to their homelands, and see to it that the Blacks could return to their homelands so they could once again live among their own kind and participate in the traditions of their own people.

      The fact is that you probably really don’t care for Blacks or for Native Americans. You love living here and you want to justify your continued immigration to and occupation of this land by pointing out that which Whites did in the past. You seem to forget that the only reason you are here is because White people allowed you to immigrate, Natives did not. Blacks are here because White people brought them here, and not the natives of this land. Hispanics are here because, again, Whites allow them to immigrate. Like Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics, you Asians are also not native to this land. You are all now a co-squatters of your own choice, and are all co-occupiers of the Americas, out of your own free will. And out of your own free will you continue to benefit for that which the White man created.

      You say you hate Whites, and that many minorities do, yet of your own choice many of you seem to gravitate to the lands that they originate from or that they currently run. I wonder if there will ever come a time when you will hate Whites enough that you will no longer willingly place yourselves at their mercy.

      S.
      March 13, 2012 at 8:34 am
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      • S., if whites, blacks, Hispanics and Asians left the US, who would go to the Indian casinos?

        awd

        AWD
        March 13, 2012 at 8:46 am
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        • Indians shouldn’t have casinos, as it is not their traditional way of life. They hate White people and everything about White society. Despite being Natives, they’re currently living a lifestyle created by their European occupiers. If all occupiers were to leave the Americas, but not before Whites first dismantled their European style civilization, the Natives could then be left to live the lives they once did prior to occupation. They could once again roam the plains freely on foot (Horses were brought by Europeans, and all of them will be returned to their natural habitat in Eurasia), live in teepees, wigwams, longhouses, etc. There would be no roads, no electricity, no running water, no cities, automobiles, trains, planes, parliament buildings, grocery stores, and so on and so forth, to dot and destroy the landscape.

          Most Natives are miserable with their living conditions, and have been so for the past 500 years. Returning them to their traditional way of living will make them much happier. Europeans are the only ones that enjoy living with all of the amenities mentioned above, which is why the civlizations they create contain them. To have forced that lifestyle onto people of other races was wrong.

          S.
          March 13, 2012 at 9:17 am
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          • S., have you ever asked yourself who put you in charge of what’s in the best interest of Native Amerians? Do you really believe they REALLY want to go back to living in teepees? If so, why don’t they do so? I have a hard time believing Indians are about to give up their cash-making machines called casinos.

            awd

            AWD
            March 13, 2012 at 9:36 am
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            • S
              AWD has a good point, I know I wouldn’t want to go back to living in tepees and wigwams nor would I want to chase everything down I wanted to eat ( with o in office I’m almost there now) Seem’s most of them saw a good thing and got on board. maybe you should spend more time sweeping around your own back door.

              ga steve
              March 13, 2012 at 10:18 am
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            • Years ago, Paul Harvey said on one of his shows that while visiting an Indian reservation in, I think, Michigan that a sign on the register said “in the past, men hunted and fished and women did all the work and the White man thought he could improve on that” Sort of stuck with me all these years. Also, in the same area, one Indian tribe has been using income from their casino to buy back the adjacent territory/property taken from them by the gubmint, sort of IRONIC ya think! Good business though.

              SKIP
              May 9, 2012 at 1:47 am
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          • If we all left and dismantled this society as you put it. The very next day china or russia would attack and if you think they would set the indians up like we did you are wrong.

            Rich
            April 2, 2012 at 9:48 pm
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        • Rememer, the Indian tribes in general belong to one of the biological races of this planet, depending on where they are in the U.S. they could belong to the Caucasoid or the Mongoloid races, there are no other options.

          SKIP
          May 10, 2012 at 12:55 am
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      • Sam,
        I descended from slave owning Cherokees Indians and I have no guilt at all, but do you ever feel guilty for eating all those puppies?

        ga steve
        March 13, 2012 at 10:10 am
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      • If Black and Arab Americans move to Africa, then they’d be supporting governments that are corrupt and only care about American interests. So either way they’re doomed. A lot of Asian governments support American interest as well. Until the US and the few European countries stop bulling and exploiting(China exploits too, but unlike white countries, they invest instead of taking foreign resources by force) the world, then We can all go back to the countries of our ancestors. Which would be quite hard for Black Americans and whites, more so Black Americans(whites beat the African out of them, so it’ll be very hard for them to know all the tribes they came from, which is very sad). Take a good look at what happened in Libya=So don’t even bother suggesting that non native americans should go back and fight for their “native” countries. If Native Americans take the land back by the same methods whites used to steal it, then so be it, just as long as you let non white, some eastern/southern european descendants and recent immigrants leave peacefully.

        Sam
        March 14, 2012 at 3:26 pm
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        • Sam.
          It’s Afician American, you must be racists

          ga steve
          March 14, 2012 at 3:37 pm
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          • I know many Black Americans who don’t want to be called African Americans. Are white Americans always referring or are referred to as European Americans in America and abroad? No, they’re just called Americans, so the same should apply for non white Americans. You clearly have little contact with Americans who are Black or people in general. I’ve never heard of an “Afician” American, but being around you guys has made it a lot more easier for me to understand stupid, so I translated the stupid talk into English and got African for your “Afician”.

            Sam
            March 14, 2012 at 10:26 pm
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        • “So either way they’re doomed.”

          Maybe, but couldn’t the blacks in the USA at least TRY to return to their Afican homeland?

          Harare, Zimbabwe is kind of like Detroit, but warmer in the winter.

          Let’s keep an open mind!

          REV Wright
          May 10, 2012 at 3:20 am
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  11. Sam,

    You are on a corrision course with whitey. Use your noodle.

    Wouldn’t you like to be a pepper too?

    misterbill
    March 12, 2012 at 10:59 pm
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  12. S.-These comments about American Indians “owning” North America are false. When Whites first came to what is now the USA, Indians only occupied about 1 percent of the land. The rest was not owned or occupied by anyone so to say that Whites “stole” all of the land is nonsense. Yes, Whites treated the Indians poorly in the past and the Indians are absolutely entitled to the percentage of the land they occupied as well as having seperate Indian nations within the USA. We already have this, if we haven’t returned the correct amount of land, we need to. However, the other 99% of the land rightfully belongs to Whites as it was settled by Whites.

    Carl22
    March 13, 2012 at 8:16 pm
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  13. This article it totally off base. It begins on a poor foundation and finishes with a crooked roof. Black people have not been suffering for the past 50 years all across the board because of welfare and social correctness. I think it goes back a little further, like maybe 400 years of American slavery. Black people have only been given the right (on paper at least) to even receive the type of lives that white people are born into.

    It is so easy for the white people of this country to claim that black people hate them and not take a look at themselves. If I punch you every day for years on end and then finally one day I say “let’s be friends be friends because punching is wrong.” what do you expect. A super hug and a smile from ear to ear. “Oh thank you sir for finally realizing that punching is wrong. Now everything will be better.”

    The black people of today don’t have to have experienced the atrocities and injustices suffered by their earlier generations, because we have our own. It is very sad that your friend didn’t get the police job he wanted because he was white, yet my sympathy stops there when I think of all the black people in the history of this country who would have made amazing police officers yet were not even allowed to attempt to do so.

    You say nobody should expect something for nothing, but that is exactly what white people in general have done. You enslave a race of people. Take them away from everything they know. Push them down to the bottom of society, and then expect them to flourish the same way that you have. Not to mention, whenever we do begin flourishing, we are pushed back down.

    I don’t believe all of us black people hate white people, but white people sure as hell make it hard for us not to. Instead of assuming we all hate you, why not try looking at yourself and being honest about you and your race’s fault in the ordeal, because sadly black people are not the only group to have suffered by the hands of the white race (been a very long time since I saw a Native American…)

    Poe Ettic
    March 21, 2012 at 1:26 pm
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    • Hey, you are very wise and articulate. I like what you said. You seem to have it all figured out. I’m white and mexican; mixed race. How do I punish my white half? Should I kill myself? Should I castigate my white relatives? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

      Earl
      March 23, 2012 at 12:35 pm
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      • I don’t think I have any answers for you. If anything you might wanna ask your white half. They have more experience in such matters.

        Poe Ettic
        March 24, 2012 at 4:30 pm
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      • No Earl, you are mixed HERITAGE, you are ALL caucasoid (Caucasian) like it or not.

        SKIP
        May 10, 2012 at 1:11 am
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      • Voting Republican would be a fresh start.

        Just sayin………….

        REV Wright
        May 10, 2012 at 3:21 am
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    • Blacks have only been in the United States for 393 years (1619 – 2012). They were enslaved for 246. They’ve been free for the last 147.

      Prior to Blacks being brought to the Americas as slaves, Black Moors enslaved, occupied, and destroyed the culture of the European peoples on the Iberian peninsula, Spain and Portugal, for about 800 years. (700 – 1400) These Black Moors thought themselves superior to the natives of those lands. They occupied the lands of these White Europeans. They enslaved the populations, forcing them to do their bidding, forcing them to follow their religion, causing them to lose the cultures and the languages they spoke prior to Black Moorish colonial occupation of their lands.

      It looks like Whites retaliated against Blacks using the very methods that Blacks originally used against them first.

      San
      April 18, 2012 at 7:05 pm
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  14. There is no mention of IQs diffences here but books like the Bell Curve
    and sites like future generations show how relation between IQ’s of races correlate with sucess. White avg: 100, African American 85, and north east asian 105.

    mikeh
    March 22, 2012 at 7:12 pm
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  15. Slavery, Whitey and those who refuse to let it rest.

    Ask a black how long America had slaves, you will most likely hear 400 years, then point out that America is only 200 years old and watch the excuses fly.

    We declared our independence in 1776, we did not become independent until 1789. During the time from 1789 until 1865 we fought several wars just to keep ourselves a sovereign nation. Now by 1865 the vast majority of states had already made slavery illegal, except for the Southern states. Around 20% of the population owned slaves prior to the days before the civil war. Now I will not pretend I know the population of those states at the time, but I do know that almost 500,000 of those southerners lost their lives during the civil war.

    Now let us do a little math. Factor in people who came to the USA after the civil war, the people who died during the civil war and the 80% of southerners why could not afford a slave even if they wanted one. I put to you this question, What are the odds that you will ever meet a white person who is directly descended from a former slave owner?? Or better yet… What has a higher chance of probability, The white guy you met is a direct descendant of a soldier who fought for the freedom of blacks or the white guy you met has slave owner blood in him??
    From the 1st day our country became its own nation, to the day that the very last state gave up slavery was the span of 1 lifetime, a child born a slave in The United States of America more than likely died a free man. To hear people berate America for its past is misleading and insulting. We changed the world and have suffered for it ever since.
    Sadly Lincoln was killed before he could finish what he started, he firmly believed blacks should never have been imported here and had a plan to send them either back to Africa, or to set up their own nation in South America…..which ever they preferred.

    Let me just add one thing. Growing up in the city of Detroit I have been called White Ass Honkey more times than I can count. NEVER had I looked at a black person and called them the equivalent.
    Blacks have been duped by the same people who held them as slaves, Democrats. They still own you, and just like the old days when there were free blacks who owned slaves, they just became democrats as well.
    Instead of telling your former slave masters to go kiss your ass and that you are fully capable of fending for yourselves, you just became a new kind of slave to a new kind of master

    ron
    March 27, 2012 at 4:32 pm
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    • You make a valid point although to put it in better perspective from a “black” stand point. Ok the country we live in got it’s very own name in 1776. The people who where here did change The name of the stolen land mass they were living on (from the standpoint only of white people) The United States of America. Long before that time white people in this country have owned slaves. The first president we ever had owned slaves. What you think that just started the day before yesterday so it doesn’t count?

      The blacks who lived in that era were not only oppressed by white slave owners. The way it seems from reading your response is that blacks were just here because we bought the tickets to come. Blacks were dehumanized as in white people didn’t consider us to be human at all. By race alone we were deemed unfit, immoral, filthy, stupid, and a cornucopia of other such adjectives. If this is how you are viewed, then this is how you are treated.

      Whites, regardless of wealth, would gather within their own classes and systematically abuse black people. It was considered good fun to go out to the park, have some food and hang a nigger all in the same evening. Regardless of who you were, if you were black this was a reality for you. Period.

      That was way before 1776 my friend. The first boat that white people landed here on had slaves riding along. The answer would be 200 years if you decide that this country was something completely different from what it was before 1776. The answer would be more than 400 years if acknowledge the fact that that we hit the soon to be stolen land as soon as we did in regards to us as slaves.

      Poe Ettic
      May 9, 2012 at 10:54 am
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  16. have you ever given a thought to the fact that white people started racism and they are proven to be the most racist race that exists. i cannot believe that some of you white people are stupid enough to point your fingers at black people when you are the ones who hate the black people (and the person who wrote this stupid, biased article probably does too). the black man would not hate the white man if the white man had not started it in the first place. are we just supposed to forget about the 500 years of slavery and all of its contents? if anyone who is black hates whites, it is because of what whites did to us in the first place (a pretty good reason). africans were forced over here to america, you stupid, ignorant fools. you know what? if whites hate blacks so much, why did they bring us from Africa in the first place? we didn’t ask to be brought over here to be insulted and looked down on by stupid, ignorant fools. ouch. you lose in the end, because EVIL NEVER WINS.

    person
    April 18, 2012 at 5:33 pm
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    • According to Blacks they are the true Moors. Moors invaded, occupied and enslaved the population of the Iberian peninsula in Europe for about 800 years. That means prior to any Blacks being brought to the Americas as slaves, Blacks enslaved Whites first, so your statement that Whites started this mess is incorrect. Blacks were the first to invade, occupy, and enslave White people.

      Also, your “500 years of oppression” belief is off. Black Americans could not have been in bondage for 500 years seeing as they have only been in U.S. For 393 years. The first 20 slaves were brought over in 1619. Slavery continued until 1865. It only lasted 246 years. Blacks have now been free for 147 years. 246 years is a far cry from the 800 years of slavery Whites suffered at the hands of Blacks.

      As far as your not wanting to be here is concerned, after slavery was ended the intention was to return all Blacks to their native habitat in Africa. It was your Black ancestors that used the American court system to ensure that they could stay. Today Black people could be living much better lives if this had not been done.

      And yes, Whites are the most racist people on the earth. It’s a wonder that people keep moving to lands they dominate, and/or continuing to live alongside them, and then complaining that they’re acting the very way they’re famous the world over for being – racist. You’d think people would try to stay as far away from them as possible.

      San
      April 18, 2012 at 6:51 pm
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      • Moors are black, yet not all blacks are Moors … “According to Blacks they are the true Moors.” Blacks were the true Moors. However, being black didn’t just start when some of them became Moors. To not consider the many generations of Africans before that seems a bit lacking on your part I would think.
        642 AD The Arbas invade Egypt. This was after the death of Mohammed. The rise of Islam basically. After this, that same group continues moving west over the top of Africa. By the time of the invasion of the Visigoth Iberian peninsula in 711, the vast majority of the moors were still black. Infact, one of the major contributing factors of their fall around 1139 at the dawn of the 12th century renaissance, was inequality between the lighter arabs and the darker africans over matters of wealthy. With capture of the libraries in Toledo from the previous resident Moors, Europe has one of it’s key renaissance periods as what is now dubbed “the middle ages.”
        The slaves captured and traded by the Islamic Moors were generally Christians and Africans. Basically both christian whites and blacks were being made slaves of by the Arab rulers.
        To just send blacks back to Africa after the abolition of slavery would have been inhumane. A population of people already having been dislocated and allowed to assimilate on a level of survival, now being dislocated once again from the only home some have ever had for a second time within a span of a few centuries?
        Anyone who tries not to live along side whites is deemed a separatist and is soon attacked. Countries that don’t trade with white countries are thus invaded and taken over. Casualties are usually in the hundreds of thousands…

        Poe Ettic
        May 9, 2012 at 11:22 am
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  17. the moderators who have to approve this are probably racist losers themselves (they better not be). I am wasting my time

    person
    April 18, 2012 at 5:34 pm
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  18. and do you think that white people have better perspectives about blacks? there is not reciprocity on race relations mr. AWD, I think whites in general dislike (see I don’t said “HATE”) blacks in America, How do I know this? Simple! I can take a number of white professional / students and ask them, “hey guys, how many of you think that your black co-students/workers are here thanks to meritocracy and self-determination?, they say: NONE, zero distinctions, zero impartiality. Whites dislike blacks too, How do I know this? Simple!check the youtube videos about the children of different races and look how the white children always have negative thoughts about blacks. Whites dislike blacks too, How do I know this? Simple!when they assume that every single black person is a potential danger for nonblacks (especially whites) as Mr. Derbyshire stated

    Juan
    April 18, 2012 at 6:42 pm
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  19. White men as whole have tried to kill the entire race of Black people! When have Blacks ever tried to kill the White gene pool? What kind of monster would do that? Some White men are the most inhumane animals to every walk the face of the earth while trying to convince a world composed largely of colored people, how pure and civilized they are. I wonder if White people are innately evil? Look at this video before you answer my question. http://youtu.be/ASrFufnMNDg

    Black Victim
    April 20, 2012 at 5:36 pm
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    • Prior to Blacks being brought to the Americas as slaves, Moors enslaved, occupied, and destroyed the culture of the European peoples on the Iberian peninsula, Spain and Portugal, for about 800 years. (700 – 1400) According to many Blacks they are the true Moors. So, it was Black Moors who first thought themselves superior. They not only occupied the lands of these White Europeans, they enslaved them as well, forcing them to do their bidding, forcing them to follow their religion. They caused the native population to lose the cultures and the languages they spoke prior to the Black Moorish colonial occupation of their lands. In contrast, Whites only enslaved Blacks for 246 years (1619 – 1865). Blacks tried to destroy Whites before Whites ever did anything to Blacks.

      You believe that Whites want to exterminate Blacks, and that they are inhumane. If I believed that about another race I most certainly wouldn’t want to live in a country dominated by them, nor would I immigrate to one.

      Why aren’t you and your people exiting every White dominated land as fast as you can, and heading straight to Africa where you can expel any non-Black peoples, and create a fully Black civilization that’s free of White domination and White racism?

      There are people in many African nations who wake up every day and never have to think about Whites, because they’re nowhere to be found.

      Why isn’t the above, a fully Black civilization created by Blacks for Blacks, one that all Black people today aspire to have?

      San
      April 21, 2012 at 5:02 pm
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      • Good luck with getting a response to that. The only response to the “Why not head back to Africa, free of evil white oppressors” question I ever get is the non-sequitur “Jeeze–I’ve been hearing that my whole life!” To the diminutive brain, I suppose that suffices as an answer.

        RedStaterNYC
        May 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm
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        • That’s fine. So long as you people keep your mitts off the diamonds, gold, uranium and oil you steal from the African continent. It won’t be DeBeers selling you that diamond engagement ring for your girlfriend, it will be Mufasas. Sound like a plan? You guys keep America. We’ll keep Africa. You give us money for our oil and our diamonds, and we’ll buy our iPods direct from China.

          Kewlgirl
          May 8, 2012 at 4:01 pm
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          • Kewlgirl,
            Hell yeah! that sounds like a GREAT deal to me.. when are you all leaving? Take all the worthless white liberals with you so you can use them as slaves… deal?

            Rock of the Marne
            May 8, 2012 at 4:40 pm
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            • Like I said, as soon as the white farmers and mine owners and oil drillers hand over the reins to the blacks in Africa, we can begin our exodus. And good luck with cooking your own meals, minding your own kids, cleaning your own houses, picking your own fruit, Wiping your elderly parents behind, etc. know you folks don’t really like to get your hands dirty.

              Kewlgirl
              May 8, 2012 at 7:29 pm
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              • kewlgirl

                LOL sure thing and when the whites leave take with them all the infrastructer ( roads, buildings, power grids etc… all requiring engineering expertise ) and all of the machinery too so you can have it back the way they found it… with nothing. Why should THEY work so hard to build then hand it over to you? See what you can do with it without the help of whitey… mud huts and sticks LOL Good luck

                Gawd LOL What century are you from? For you info I was 1 of 8 children on a farm in PA… after high school I joined the military and retired recently after 22 years… so dont attempt to insult me about getting my hands dirty… been there and done that missy

                FYI, No one cooks and cleans at our house other than the wife and I, and no one raises our kids other than the wife and I… as for picking fruit my wifes people do that ( Mexicans ) so unless YOU are Mexican no need to talk about house cleaning and picking fruit you lazy parasite. Most young Americans ( black and white )refuse to do a hard days labor and the likes of you would rather live off the tax payer so shut up and leave already….

                Rock of the Marne
                May 8, 2012 at 7:48 pm
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                • Rock, we could do this all day. Please then arrange to pay for millions of Africans who provided the free labor used to produce the cotton exports that made this country rich – oh wait that would be reparations and you don’t believe in that. And by the way we fed your kids at our breast for years and years, all unpaid. And we filled in for your “delicate” wives when they had a headache. We cooked your food – which is why the only thing you people can make is peanut butter sandwiches and un seasoned chicken. Before the Mexicans, we were your gardeners. We chauffeured your cars. We picked your damn fruit. We worked the factories. We slammed the steel for your rails, we poured the tar for your roads. And yeah, you dump your elderly on us to see them thru their last days too. And we take the risks to support your recreational drug use too. TheMexicans are new to this game and just like you whites, we were pushed out of the job market by cheap labor.

                  And this is not last century dude. Right thru to at least the 1980s..

                  , I’ve worked every day of my life since I was 15 years old. I’ve never collected a friggin dime from either welfare or, unemployment. I didn’t even get federal student loans for college. Parents bust their butts and I worked -library, burger joint, child care, secretary, house cleaner, to pay for my schooling. Still working. Paying for your social security checks and doctor visits.

                  So let’s call it a wash – white people get the hell out of africa, stop stealing our natural resources, buy them from us lfor a fair market price and we’ll all get along better. But this is wishful thinking, anglos been taking other peoples stuff and saying its theirs for years.

                  No disrespect dude. Im sure youre a stand up guy. Thanks for the debate.

                  Kewlgirl
                  May 8, 2012 at 8:21 pm
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                  • Kewl,

                    My Grandfathers family came here from Germany in 1932 soooooo YOUR ancestors ( and YOU ) did nothing for me or mine so get out of the past already… speaking of what you THINK blacks used to do before Mexican immigration is funny because many of you refuse to do a damn thing now…. fact! Never had any black folks on our farm getting up at 0400 to work which I did from the time I started school… seems as if I ( like most white americans ) never benifited from your existience.

                    As far as your projection that black folks were STILL driving Miss Daisy in the 1980′a… comical and a lie. You have been watching too many historical movies honey ( like The Patriot and others putting black “mammie” on display ) and confusing them with facts that exist NOW! Oh, and the Chinese and Irish built most of the railroads… but keep projecting

                    My family took care of my Grandfather until his death.. no help from black folks on that one. I dont use recreational drugs ( ahem unless Stoli is a drug )so your claim that blacks take the risks to support my drug habits is moot… besides blacks are in the drug trade for the same reason white and mexican trash are.. to get rich quick without working for it. So stop with the vicitmology already.

                    So you worked everyday since you were 15…. and you have never collected a dime of welfare. That is great and niether have I. Its character building to WORK your way through school and I applaud you for that but it does NOT make you unique but you seem to resent that you have had to work at all. I had to go to night school between deployments and after 12 hour days at work so I feel ya. Would YOU have these oportunities in any country in Africa? I dont think so.. yet you cant get your head out of a past that ALL whites like myself had NOTHING to do with and all of us were born with a silver spoon shoved up our asses. I would also imagine that you refer to yourself as African American… which is a divisive term by default…yet people like you complain that whites dont except you.

                    For you to say that YOU pay for my social security and doctor visits is stupid and self promoting at best. I earned ALL the benifits that I have through 22 years of service to this country… not sitting around on my front pourch drinking 40′s before noon and waxing my car while blowing the speakers out with so much base that it disturbs contributing citizens

                    I agree with you on one thing.. whites should get the hell out of Africa and take ALL they built and engineered with them and leave Africa the way it was before they came… then you can go right?

                    Since the dawn of time one tribe has conquered and gained possesion of the resources of the conquered… you are just crying that Africans came out on the short end of Darwinism. Lets not forget the fact that they were stealing from and enslaving each other as well ( tribe vs tribe ) before whitey came along and when we did THEY ( conquering tribes ) sold thier slaves to us…. unless you really believe that a couple boat loads of pot belly puritans anchored on the shores of the Great Dark Continent and made the slaves get on the boat LOL yeah right…. so NO ONE is innocent in ALL of this… but for someone like you that is an inconvienient truth because it diminishes your status of victimhood.

                    Rock of the Marne
                    May 9, 2012 at 3:43 am
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                    • Rock,
                      The challenge in debating with you is that you keep making it personal. My use of the word ‘you’ in our discussion thus far was not specifically directed at you personally, but at white people generally in a discussion about the issues between whites and blacks.

                      As interesting as your personal story is, and it is interesting, it is just one anecdote. I choose not to share such a level of detail about my personal life. I think that we both agree that work is an essential part of living You don’t work, you don’t eat. I live and abide by that principle personally. I like the freedom to work my money and then go where I want, buy what I want, etc. So I do not support the welfare/projects mentality, where they are dependent on someone else – even to buy a pair of socks.

                      I don’t call myself an African American. I am an American. This is my homeland and where my children were born. So again, not sure why you or anyone wants Americans to leave. However, if you feel America belongs only to white people and Africa belongs to black people, I’m suggesting that we should look into that – under certain conditions.

                      As to Africa, all of why you may say is true – the land was not developed by the Africans. They didn’t feel they needed to do so. There’s a whole sociological discussion about that. Anglos exploit resources, other cultures don’t. It’s whatever.

                      The point however is that the land still belonged to the African people. So if foreign investors feel they can make better use of the land, then they should pay for the use of the land. The miners and oil drillers can absolutely exploit the land but the land ultimately belonged to the people who lived there first. And that for sure was not the white people. The Africans should get royalties for every drop of oil or every precious mineral that is extracted from the ground. Just like if someone told you there was oil in your backyard, you would want the experts in oil drilling to come in and get it, right? No good sitting in the ground. But you would either expect them to pay you for the use of the land or to buy the land from you, right? You wouldn’t expect them to just move their stuff in, start drilling, get the product, sell it overseas and not give you a dime?

                      Africans did supply other Africans for the slave trade to the US and Europe. Slaves were a part of African society as the tribes fought each other for land and the winner took the spoils and took slaves as well. Those slaves were eventually freed and allowed to assimilate into their new home, marry in their new tribe and ultimately become indistinguishable from any other member of the tribe.

                      I’m not sure that is exactly what happened with the white slave traders. And I’m not sure it is relevant They took the slaves, built up America using their labor, freed the slaves and then did not want to give the slaves citizenship This is where the victimhood as you put it comes in. The descendants of the slaves want to be treated as full and equal citizens. Most of us don’t want reparations – but we don’t want to be told to leave either. We feel we contributed to the growth of this country and should be allowed to reap the benefits of being called Americans. Unfortunately or fortunately, we’re human beings and we’re not disposable. You brought us here, we worked, under terrible conditions, and we were freed. We live here now. Many of us contribute to the GDP. So can you stop hating on us?

                      Thanks.

                      kewlgirl
                      May 9, 2012 at 1:27 pm

                  • kewlgil
                    I know the names of 9 of the slaves my ancestors owned, do you know the name of your daddy?

                    ga steve
                    May 9, 2012 at 2:06 pm
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                    • Actually Steve, I do. Thanks for asking. And I know my grandpa as well.
                      Dad is retired, living well, after worked for 50 years in the same industry. Just brought a 5 BR house, is an elder in the church, opened up the pool yesterday as a matter of fact. He has aches and pains that didn’t show up before, but otherwise, thankful for the family God has given him and a country where he had an opportunity to build a life.

                      kewlgirl
                      May 9, 2012 at 2:33 pm

              • No welfare, food stamps, SEC 8 housing vouchers, or 60 inch SONY cable TVs in Harare.

                What do you plan to do?

                REV Wright
                May 10, 2012 at 10:38 pm
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    • black victum,
      What you say is totally not true, now my g grandfather and his father before him owned blacks as slaves, it would not be a good business pratice to spend hundreds of dollars on a slave get him home and then kill him, are you stupid?

      ga steve
      May 4, 2012 at 12:25 pm
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    • “I bees a black Obama victim, and you owes me!”

      [Classic typical Obama black]

      “Someone else needs to to take care of me cause eyes bees black!”

      Wrong……………

      I don’t care…………

      REV Wright
      May 4, 2012 at 9:17 pm
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    • Are ALL blacks “victims” everwhere, or just the 99% on welfare, food stamps, and watchin Sony TV in “gubment” housing?

      Just “axing”………….

      REV Wright
      May 10, 2012 at 3:23 am
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  20. u people are dumb im black every white hispanic person owe blacks, and native american everything in the world we not dumb wat yall did to us was cruel now pay back a bitch aint it

    rashaye
    May 4, 2012 at 9:41 am
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    • rashaye,

      I’m very impressed.

      A well written post from a black Obama voter………..

      [or...."Why every taxpayer needs COL Colt"]

      REV Wright
      May 4, 2012 at 11:45 am
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      • That has to be a joke post.

        RedStaterNYC
        May 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm
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        • RedStaterNYC,

          Yes. A joke.

          And a poor one.

          Rashaye is an idiot. Typical Obama hack.

          Regards,

          REV

          REV Wright
          May 4, 2012 at 9:11 pm
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  21. At the end of the day people thrive off of conflict. Call it human nature or survival of the fittest, it doesnt matter. I am am white man and grew up in a very tough neighbourhood in glasgow, scotland and if theres one thing i learned through years of savage violence i have witnessed, people always need a victim to justify themselves. Be it their religion (which could get you killed up here) or race, colour, creed whatever. Our dna dictates to us to look for group acceptance and alienate those who are different. Being black or white the difference obvious and hard to ignore. We should have never integrated people of different skin colour in one country because we are different where it matters most to people. On the surface. Black people, white people whoever. We are all anti-anyone whos different. If a white man and a black man who were friends fal out; what will be the first insult aimed at. Skin colour obviously. The worlds run by limp wristed polically correct morons who hide their heads in the sand to deny the truth. We should be seperated, simple

    Ped
    May 8, 2012 at 3:09 pm
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    • Peds – interesting argument. But let’s take it a step further. So based on your experiences in Scotland, an all Protestant or all Catholic region is preferred? Is this the separate but equal principle? Doesn’t it come down to who has the power then? If the power is on the protestant side of the fence, and catholics get discriminated against because they are catholic, is that ok?

      Seems we went down this path before my friend. Hasn’t worked.

      More likely, the truth is that we are all much more the same than we are different, skin color notwithstanding. If someone needs a new lung or liver or heart, odds are so long as he gets a human heart, he’s happy.

      One race – human. All blood bleeds red. We all shyte, cry, eat and sleep. Some of us even get lucky and get sex on a regular basis. lol.

      Kewlgirl
      May 8, 2012 at 3:51 pm
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      • oh please… shut up and leave already.. YOU speak of one race yet can hardly conceal the contempt you feel for whites LOL you want respect and power then earn it! You could start by respecting each other.. you cant even stop killing each other but want us to view you as valuable… I dont think so

        Rock of the Marne
        May 8, 2012 at 7:54 pm
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        • It’s business baby. Pay what you owe for your American privilege and we’ll all be ok.
          And definitely don’t want one race. We are so much more interesting than you. We’re survivors. We’re creative. And we don’t walk around hiding behind our guns – which is your only source of power.

          Kewlgirl
          May 8, 2012 at 8:28 pm
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          • Business? LOL yeah its called extortion by TRYING to exploit white guilt… but only stupid whites fall for that shite!

            Much more interesting.. mmmmmk Creative? not for anyting constructive… Survivors? you have to be the way you victimize EACH OTHER nightly behind the barrel of a gun which is the only source of power that YOU have…. oh no.. too close to home huh
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpUAFGqwiJY

            Rock of the Marne
            May 9, 2012 at 3:49 am
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          • You as a race are about as interesting as a bag of lawn clippings, or the fly debris when I have to clean the bug zapper out. You are entertaining no doubt, with your loud offensive theatrics, monkey shines, whatever; though I gain nothing but rib splits. As for being survivors, it’s not hard to survive when you live on the backs of the contributing class (which could be you if you wanted to work and pay taxes…easier to complain I guess, not you in particular Kewlgirl, Im sure you’re stellar as you have the intellect to post intelligently). The sacred ones have contributed some good music however…jazz……rock and roll…., and by the way hip hop sucks (just my opinion, every time I give it a chance, I just feel the IQ points dropping!).

            How are you going to survive any type of survival situation when your pants don’t fit and they hang down around your ass ?(that’s creative dress right?…fashion forward I guess)? This non-conformive style of dress can be associated with blacks,and the sheer numbers of black assailants being apprehended by law enforcement (You can’t run from the cops with your pants around your ankles!, havent you learned?!) I just don’t get that it’s cool in some way within black society to be an ignorant acting , incromprehensible thug moron! If your dialect differs regionally, how are you going to communicate with each other when the shit hits the fan? I guess you’ll resort to good old fashioned English. After all, you know it, just refuse to speak it (have to be different). My rant ends with these words:

            WE’VE PAID ENOUGH AND THEN SOME.

            YOU ARE ONLY INTERESTING TO YOURSELF.

            YOU ARE NOT SURVIVORS. YOUR FUTURE WILL BE DICTATED BY THE KINDNESS IN OUR HEARTS AND OUR HUMANITY WHEN ALL’S SAID AND DONE, AS HISTORY HAS TOLD (DON’T EXPECT WHAT YOUR GETTING NOW).

            YOU BETTER GET SOME BETTER ARMS THAN THE SATURDAY NIGHT DRIVE BY SPECIALS YOU PUNK ASSES LIKE TO SHOOT INNOCENT PEOPLE WITH (CAN’T EVEN HIT YOUR INTENDED TARGETS FOR CHRIST SAKE!). TAKE SOME SHOOTING LESSONS ASSHOLES!

            OUR POWER IS IN NUMBERS AND INTELLIGENCE, NOT GUNS.

            Regards

            texson
            May 10, 2012 at 10:09 pm
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        • As a white person, have you ever rationally considered what might cause black people to kill each other? Personally, my first conclusion would be that maybe not ALL black people walk around and kill each other. Something odd to consider for a moment would be the reasoning behind blacks killing blacks being called black on black violence. When a white person kills another it is simply called murder and a statistic isn’t generally kept. White people kill each other just as much as any other race, people of all races have this issue. Blacks and other minorities however, are systematically killed.

          Poe Ettic
          May 9, 2012 at 11:31 am
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          • Poe.Ettic, that’s not true. Statistics show that blacks kill and are killed at percentages much higher than whites. Look it up. The number one cause of death for young blacks is murder.

            awd

            AWD
            May 9, 2012 at 12:32 pm
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            • If you have 1000 whites and you kill 300 of them the percentage will be lower than if you have 500 blacks and kill 200 of them. Percentages are wonderful to use but only retain accuracy within the scope of the numbers form which the originate.

              Poe Ettic
              May 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm
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              • Poe,
                Gawd… Just as I expected YOU are part of the problem in YOUR own community. Deflect and deny is all you have… Always searching for moral equivalency in others “but they did it too” so YOU dont have to deal with your own failures. Funny, my kids learned to stop using that excuse by the time they reached middle school.. nothing will EVER change until you change your blame whitey or blame the past thinking. ONLY black MEN can save black people.. you should not look to benevolent white politicians who only want to use you for votes and whose expectations of you are so low that its nothing but closet bigotry ( they will deny that )

                Why are you and those like you stuck in a perpetual state of juvenile thinking? Is it in your DNA or did those white liberals convince you and those like you that you are too inferior to be responsible for your own actions? You have been “bamboozled” into thinking you are always the victims by living in the past. Funny, I know quite a few black folks who have refused to be manipulated by bigoted white democrats looking to keep power and they have escaped the plantation/thinking of democrat dependency but I suppose you would call them “uncle toms” but at least they realize SELF determination..

                Almost nightly I see black on black crime on the news where I live… yet you want to deny that is exists or should I say down play the importance or epidemic nature of it so you can try to boost your self esteem… cowards way out bro! Man up and change it if you love black folks so much… or do black lives only matter when you can blame it on a white devil ( or in Trayvons case a hispanic/jew that you wanted to be white so badly )

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpUAFGqwiJY

                Rock of the Marne
                May 10, 2012 at 5:54 am
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                • I am not sure if you realized that the specific post you commented on was simply a reply to another post. I am in no way claiming that black on black crime is not an epidemic in our communities. I am simply reminding those who cling to the fact that blacks kill each other should not fail to look at it from the perspective of humans and not simply that of what white people see.
                  I will not downplay the stupid violence that goes on in our own community yet at the same time you must not forget where this type of behavior came from and how it is being perpetuated. If black people are stuck in the past at all, part of that can and should be attributed to blacks themselves. That goes without saying. What must be understood is that the majority of fault lies on whites. Yea slavery ended, but black oppression and inequality did not. Do you really think that just telling all the black people that they were free to no longer be slaves would just fix all the atrocities done by whites to our race?
                  I will however admit that that which has been done to us and still is will pale in comparison to the atrocities committed against the Native American people. White people have a tendency to tell people to not get stuck in the past, yet they fail to point out that the past is filled with your violence. White people have mass murdered or enslaved every other race on this planet including their own. They have stolen land and enforced their law upon everyone. Now that your work is done, everyone should forget what has happened? Stop sitting around in the past? From the perspective of a white male, I guess that would be a good idea huh…

                  Poe Ettic
                  May 10, 2012 at 9:15 am
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                  • Poe Ettic – you said that really well. I’ll just add that unlike other groups that came to America (usually of free will) and went through hard times (the Irish, the Chinese, etc.), black people still face inordinate discrimination, solely on the basis of our physical differences – skin, hair, bone structure. So for us, it is difficult to let go of the past, because it is still in many ways our present. Irish, Italian, Jewish, even Hispanic and to some degree Asian – they’re essentially indistinguishable at least physically from any WASP. But blacks are as different as night and day (metaphor not intended).

                    I can talk on the phone with white people for years and everything is alright. And the minute I show up in person, you see the aha moment, then usually some patronizing remark, like, wow you really speak well, and then the walls go up. And I’m actually a lighter-skinned black. Obama is half white and folks still can’t get over his black side. The guy eats arugula (I still don’t know what that is) and folks draw pics of him chomping down on watermelon and drinking 40s.

                    But yeah, you’ve captured the essence of the whole problem. Tell them they are free but don’t really know what to do with them. If you try to help them, give them a leg up, then it’s evil affirmative action and reverse racism. Stick them in a pen (projects), and throw them a few pennies a month, and complain about how useless and degenerate they are. I don’t have the solution and yes I believe blacks have to fight their circumstance to overcome. Go to school. Stay in School. Take pride in getting the best grade possible in school. Prove to yourself and others that you’re not some brainless baboon. Take the low paying job, show up on time, do an honest day work for an honest day pay and work your way up. Avoid jail. Get married. Get involved in something positive (church, the arts, community development). Keep your place and your body clean. Have goals for your kids. Eat healthy.

                    But whites also have to take responsibility for their past and present role and at a minimum, be patient. It’s only been 50 years since blacks had any freedom at all. It doesn’t happen over night. Insist on law and order – but stop telling us we’ll never be anything, because a lot of us are working at improving every day.

                    kewlgirl
                    May 10, 2012 at 10:33 am
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                  • Poe
                    oh Lord would you grow up already?

                    you say; “Im simply reminding those who cling to the fact that blacks kill each other should not fail to look at it from the perspective of humans and not simply what white people see”
                    I say: lol really? so we are not human huh? wow

                    you say; “what must be understood is that the majority of of fault lies on whites”
                    I say; LMAO oh you poor baby.. too childlike to be responsible for your own actions. Its ALWAYS whiteys fault.. give me a break

                    you say; “slavery ended but oppression and inequality did not”
                    I say; your full of shite! What oppression? What inequality? People LIKE YOU do not want equal opertunity you want equal outcome! Grow a pair nancy..

                    you say: “do you really think that just telling all black people that they were free to no longer be slaveswould fix all the atrocities done by whites to our race?”
                    I say; YES.. it was a start. However I wasnt there when slavery was ended over 160years ago and niether were you! SO would do I think it just fixed everything back then,, not really. Do I think that it would fix your problem now? Hell yes! Get over it.. I knonw many black people that have moved on and they are sucessful. What the hell do you want from US? What do you need from your fellow citizens to put your big boy pants on today?

                    you say; “Now that your work is done, everyone should just forget what happened?”
                    I say; what work did I… did I do? Huh? Tell me Poe… what did I do? Go ahead tell me…..

                    you say; “from the perspective of a white male, I guess that would be a good idea”
                    I say; from a human perspective its a good idea for everyone to move on.. but you dont want that. YOU want ME to pay for something that I had NOTHING to do with.

                    BOTTOM LINE…. YOU were NEVER a SLAVE and I NEVER owned any! Black folks move on and assimilate everyday ( the ones that people like you call uncle toms ) SO sit there and stew in your own juices over a past that neither one of us was here for…. good luck

                    Rock of the Marne
                    May 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm
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                  • poe
                    Stick a fork in the claim about the atrocities the white man committed against Indians, You don’t give a f–k about Indians, you saying that is bullshit, You are a racist bigot and that is the bottom line, go to hell eat shit and die I don’t care, you want something for nothing bla bla bla, We as Americans have to live with the violence that comes from the black race, how about some character as MLK talked about instead of your racist bullshit.

                    ga steve
                    May 10, 2012 at 1:40 pm
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                    • ga steve, how many ‘poe’s’ have been here over the years. Isn’t is scary of the indoctrination of victimhood put into blacks? Isn’t it sad that they cannot blame their failures on themselves at this point even after trillions being spent on them specifically over the past 50 years? If I was black, I would get my ass out of bed and go to work every day and take my future into my own hands through results. Just as I do now!

                      awd

                      AWD
                      May 10, 2012 at 1:46 pm

                  • We did not steal this land…..

                    We conquered it….

                    Big difference asswipe

                    Bluto
                    May 10, 2012 at 2:02 pm
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      • Black or white, you sound like an interesting woman:)

        SKIP
        May 8, 2012 at 8:49 pm
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        • Appreciate the positive vibe Skip. Have a good day.

          Kewlgirl
          May 8, 2012 at 11:02 pm
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      • OK! I can’t help myself, sort of wondering what Kewlgirl looks like, I know she is educated, articulate, can spell, correct grammar and knowlwdgeable of WTF is going on in the world! Hmmmm interesting indeed, and not afraid to say it.

        SKIP
        May 10, 2012 at 1:18 am
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        • Skip – you’re making me blush, but thanks for the kind words. You sure you just haven’t been in Afghanistan too long? (lol) Be safe and thanks for working to keep us safe. Gotta love technology that we can stay in touch with you guys like this

          kewlgirl
          May 10, 2012 at 10:37 am
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          • Maybe a diamond in the billy goats butt.

            ga steve
            May 10, 2012 at 1:43 pm
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          • July will be 9 years in the muslim wars for me, you may be onto something! Tried to enlist a couple of times, passed the USMC physical and medical (to include the mile run with armor and weapon in less than 8 minutes!) but my age stopped me and THEN I spent more than a year with the USMC in Ramadi working in the field with them LOL The USMC could have had me for a LOT less money HAHAHAHA

            SKIP
            May 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm
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  22. Hello my fellow Americans,
    I am a 25 year old black female. With a BA in design, and no children. So to say the least I am what some of you might call an “exception”, but I know many women just like me. This artical is by far one of the most ignorant things I have ever read. What is so surprising to me is that my generation is suppose to be SO “spoiled, and oblivous” to what goes on in todays society when you older people have proven the complete opposite. I thought with age comes experience and with experience comes knowledge… hum guess not. Well I never experienced slavery nor did I deal with any jim crowe laws(thanks to my anhsesters), but what I do know is that you can not tell people how they should fell thats why they are called feelings, they are strictly emotional. Thats like trying to tell a 911 victim or there offspring how they should or shouldn’t feel. And for the black people hating white people and vice a versa, we should be disscussing how to better one another, but i guess that would be to much positive progress. I am well aware of the systematic segragation of this and many other nations, but you all who point fingers and blame are as much to blame as anyone else. Open any history book, or google something other than why black or white people are so bad, and your find no matter how different you think we all are we ALL derived from Africa, and thats not to say Africans are better because technially we are all African. Find out about your history wheater its european, asain, hispanic, indian, or black if you trace it back far enough, you will find that no matter if you migrated from Africa or were forced out we are all ONE. once you realize that you can bring down the ones who are truly oppressing us and that is us. This is a world of the have and the have nots. Why do you think racism even started? to ultimaly gain total control of one another. People in power relized a long time ago that the people can never overcome what they dont know. Together we stand and devivded we continue to fall. Not all black people hate white people just like not all white people hate black people. Stop using excuse and reasons of why one should or should’t hate the other. Hate is Hate and can never be justified Love grows beyound skin color and silly apperances that fade when we die…. because our body go to dust and we back into the earth NO skin color money or education can change that. I know that I am asking to much of you old timers but at least be honest with yourself enogh to know that you point out each others problems to make you feel better about yours, but that does not wipe them away nor does that make anything better. If you truly want to change how things are start with yourself. This articale should be pulled down just for the incorrect sterotypes and underline racism…. the internet was invented to expand our minds and you older generation have found yet another way to keep our mind stuck in the past.

    Alexandria
    May 8, 2012 at 9:54 pm
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    • Alex,

      First stall warming………

      Three line maximum, and NO run on unreadable paragraphs.

      REV

      REV Wright
      May 9, 2012 at 1:20 am
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    • My fellow Americans, Have you been listening to LBJ speeches?

      ga steve
      May 10, 2012 at 1:45 pm
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    • Alexandria,
      It may have been a while since you’ve written a paper or thesus. I didnt go to college, but I know to use paragraphs when I write, please reciprocate. From what I gathered though, it seemed like a warm message of hope which you were trying to convey, though not totally lost in the cryptic rambing. You are exactly the voice of reason which can convince all readers that chocolate and vanilla ice cream really do work together. Please don’t forget what you learned in school. Thanks. God Bless.

      texson
      May 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm
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  23. I like to read history and I cannot recall where slaves became productive citizens.

    The lucky africans were brought to the new world. The unlucky africans were left in africa to live in squalor die at an early age.

    PC
    May 8, 2012 at 10:14 pm
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  24. AWD, ever wonder how people find this page… What do they type in google to get here? Gives your argument some merit, I think. We must at a minimum to our own selves be.true. Lol.

    Kewlgirl
    May 8, 2012 at 11:10 pm
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    • Kewlgirl, people find this page usually by search engines. Others by links from other conservative blogs. How did you find us?

      awd

      AWD
      May 8, 2012 at 11:57 pm
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      • Yep, that’s the point I was making. After one particularly frustrating day of race relations on the job, I typed a certain phrase into the google search engine and that’s how I found the page. I’m guessing that most non-conservatives did something similar and I guess I’m saying to myself and others like me, to thine own self be true. Admit what you typed in the search engine to get to this page. Thanks for the reply.

        Kewlgirl
        May 9, 2012 at 12:01 am
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        • Rock of the Marne
          May 9, 2012 at 3:52 am
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          • I thought that Youtube video was kind of silly. And the girl was especially ridiculous. I guess you’re denying that racism towards blacks exists today. And if that is where you start off, then I probably won’t convince you. Can you tell me why they keep drawing pictures of Obama as watermelon eating coon? Or as a chimp? Is that not racism?

            kewlgirl
            May 10, 2012 at 1:28 pm
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            • Kewl,
              Of course you thought the video was silly because you dont like the truth… and you hate it that all blacks are NOT weak minded simpletons blaming thier behavior on others like children do…such as yourself. Im not kissing your behind, or pandering to you in order to boost your self esteem….get over yourself

              Racism towards blacks today? Nope, not really… sure thier are a few fringe racist groups but they are not government sponsored racist like the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, NBPP, etc…so I would suggest that the rules are now stacked in favor of blacks yet you still whine and cry like children… not to mention many of you think its get even with whitey time. Whatever.. you hate us so bad then start rioting and killing us… go ahead.. apparently that is the only thing that will make you happy.

              Funny you keep blaming whites but I have yet to hear your demands for peace….so I will play your little extortion game with you.. What do you want? Really?… what does it take for you to move on and assimilate? Im sure everyone here is curious.. and I have a bet with a few people sitting in the room with me at the moment about what you are about to say… so tell us please. What do you want to feel better… or as you put it for white people to Acknowledge the past..

              Acknowledge? is that a verbal declaration of past events.. is that what you want? FOr white people to SAY that there was slavery… since we wrote most of the school books in America I believe that we have already done that…

              So what else could it be? Reperations? LOL already paid trillions of dollars in entitlements to help you breed at a rate of 72% out of wedlock….just to hate us for it. Only whites could be so stupid to help thier enemies feed thier children to eventually outnumber them..Geeesh

              Well, so what else can we do for ya? More representation? Hell you are only 13% of the population yet we cant turn on the TV for entertainment, sports, politics, etc..without seeing black people… so I think you may be over represented.. IMHO

              AS far as people drawing pictures of Obama as a watermelon eating coon.. never saw that one… the few distasteful things that I did see wasnt any different than ones refering to bush as a chimp or hitler… so whats your point? Why do we have to walk on egg shells around you people? Its okay to say “white boy” “honkey” “cracka” etc…. but you guys go bezerk over the N word or perceived racism on a political poster… why so sensitive? Skin too thin to take it?

              If whites were as racist as you claim NONE of you would be here… you are still here.. hmmmmmmm and you wont stay away from us either. We try to flee ( white flight ) and what happens? A few years of peace and then there goes the nieghborhood…. if we are sooooo awful why is it so hard to get away from you guys? Seems you would run from us to create all black areas to live… oh, you cant make it on your own.. parasites like you ( not assimilating hard working black folks )need a host to live… unfortunantly when the demands of the parasite exceeds the hosts ability to sustain it… the host will die as well as the parasite.. thats our future in this country

              Black Marxist like you do not want equal opportunity.. you want equal outcome. I owe you nothing but the same courtesy that I would extend to anyone in public… that is being treated as an equal. So your attempts at extortion in order to illicite white guilt are doomed to fail… because the only thing holding blacks back is themselves. Assimilate and succeed or you can sit there and stew in your own juices hating whitey and waiting for an apology that is NEVER coming!

              Rock of the Marne
              May 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm
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              • Dang, Rock. That’s a lot of hate you’re kicking out. And I get the subtext, so probably last time I’ll post for awhile. Had fun chatting with you (except for today maybe). Wishing you the best. You’re entitled to feel the way you feel.

                a) In order for you not to see the NAACP and CBC (Congressional Black Caucus) as hate groups, you’d have to first accept that historically, blacks were prejudiced against. We couldn’t live where we wanted. We couldn’t get hired, etc. So, these groups were formed to advocate for black people who weren’t getting any help. Again, you’d have to accept that blacks were discriminated against. If you don’t accept it – if you think it has been equal opportunity for blacks since the day they were set free, then it’s a moot point.

                b) As many have already said, these entitlements you speak of – I think they are available to the entire American populace. And there are millions of whites and other races who receive these entitlements. I have never asked or received them, so I am not familiar with them. But, I wouldn’t call these entitlements reparations since everyone, white, black, yellow, purple can get them. It is not just for black people.

                c) I won’t touch the over-representation on TV thing. Too bad we can’t go back to the old days when blacks weren’t allowed on TV. A lily white world – I hear ya. And as far as the N word, clearly you know that the N word is a pejorative term with (here we go with that word again) historical implications. The N word was used to dehumanize blacks – we weren’t human, we’re something less than human. But it’s whatever. I don’t even know what to say to either of those 2 comments.

                What do I want? I’d like for everyone to have empathy. Meaning, I stayed on this board chatting it up with you guys so I could understand why you feel the way you do and hopefully you could understand why I see things the way I do. Cause we all come to life with different perspective, depending on which side of the fence you’re on. I’ve learned a lot – especially from you Rock. I heard loud and clear that you don’t want to be blamed for stuff you had nothing to do with. I heard that you want black people to stop complaining and get going for themselves. To stop asking for a handout.

                Guess what – I agree with you. I’m a 2nd generation immigrant, so perhaps that has something to do with it. But probably the most important thing my dad ever told me was this. We’re all created equal. After that you’re on your own. So with respect to your strategy for life, we are in total agreement.

                The only thing we disagree about is that I believe life is harder for black people. I think there are lots of reasons why blacks feel like giving up and it takes a really strong minded black person to push on in the face of the stuff thrown at them. Like when you go to school, work hard, get a decent position, and then people tell you that you only got it because of affirmative action. That you don’t deserve anything nice. That you don’t have the right to live in a nice neighborhood. Rock, everyone wants to live somewhere nice. No one wants to live in the ghetto. That’s all. If we’re good neighbors, don’t have parties, keep our lawn neat, why do you have to move out.

                But whatever, it’s just whatever.
                I’m not a Marxist. But I hate what the banks did. And I hate that they got away with it.

                kewlgirl
                May 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm
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                • Once AGAIN you reference the PAST!!!!! That is why we cannot make any progress… its all about the past with you because you cant really give REAL facts of white racism now…. you need to stay in the past in order to keep your victim status… I refuse to play that game with you… Black people are better than thata and I would gather from your prose that YOU are too…even as twisted as your ideology is LOL

                  YOU people have been sold a bill of goods in order to emtionally manipulate you for your votes. Tell me something Kewlgirl.. in my experiences most black people/communities are socially conservative ( more church going than any other race, at least here in the south LOL ) Yet they monolithically vote for democrats at 96%… why? Democrats dont represent black family values.. most black folks I know are against homosexuality and abortion yet they vote against thier conscience for Democrats…. why? Because they have been “bamboozled” by bigoted white liberals who buy thier loyalty with entitlements ( thier 30 pieces of silver ) so thier votes can be harvested at election time. I wish ALL black folks would wake up and see that they are STILL being used… but the enemy is the ones PRETENDING to be your friends.

                  FYI… I do think that lfe is harder for SOME blacks… for those who are trying to assimilate and are being attacked for it in thier own communities.. you know.. uncle toms. I have a perfect example of that in my own life. My daughter has a friend from school that frequently sleeps over and they study together. This young lady is in advance placement classes with my daughter and she is black.. She spends more time at our house than her own because even her own older sister has assaulted her on more than one occasion and verbally berates her with “oreo” and “acting white” because she cares about her grades and has white friends ( well my daughter is 1/2 Mexican but I guess that is white now according to the MSM LOL ) SO….. should I live up to YOUR expectations of me and turn her away next time she comes to our door? Nope.. she is a good kid and trying despite those in her communnity and her own house trying to hold her back. So dont tell me that much of black folks problems are not SELF inflicted.. What the hell is “acting white” anyway?

                  I would ALWAYS rather be neighbors with black conservatives than white liberals or trash ( trash comes in ALL colors )… fact!

                  Rock of the Marne
                  May 11, 2012 at 5:40 am
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              • Wow Rock,

                Bootifully put!

                texson
                May 10, 2012 at 10:35 pm
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  25. “We must at a minimum to our own selves be.true.”

    Kewgirl,

    It that like “keepin it real”?

    REV Wright
    May 9, 2012 at 1:22 am
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    • I think Shakespeare’s phrase is more artistic, don’t you?

      Yes, I’m promoting integrity, on both sides. It’s a good thing. Sorry if it offended.

      kewlgirl
      May 9, 2012 at 1:30 pm
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      • Kewlgirl..
        something happened to your reply feature on your lengthy post at 1:27 so Im using this one to answer you.

        Wow.. you actually got through that without blaming everything on whitey.. well almost LOL ( that blame is the source of my aggravation )and it was said without being hostile.. very nice

        I only tell angry whitey hating African Americans to go back ( since whitey is so unbearable ) but assimilating, contributing black folks ( Americans ) I NEVER say that… do you get it? Its NOT about color with me.. its about actions/attitude and MANY in your community consider to be truly black you must have an attitude… you know what I am talking about.

        My only beef with you… YOU keep bringing up the past. It has nothing to do with me or ANY white folks alive today ( or black for that matter) I really think that black people need to understand that… we will NEVER feel we owe you for the past… NEVER! All we owe you is the same courtesy that we should give everyone. No special treatment, no victim status… just the same. Move on… let it go! Honest white people will NEVER tell you that they feel guilty for something that they had NOTHING to do with. ONLY white liberals who wish to manipulate you or appear progressive in front of thier wasp friends do that… yeah, you should be careful around those white people.

        I would ALWAYS rather live next door to a black conservative than next door to a liberal white… fact!

        Rock of the Marne
        May 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm
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        • Do you honestly believe that the history of black and white relations have nothing to do with the people of today? So the fact that you might have had a Russian ancestor wouldn’t effect your life at all today? By the rules you are trying to play, if I murdered someone yesterday, or even 20 yrs ago, it doesn’t have anything to do with today … do you also believe that wiping out the Native Americans has nothing to do with this country today? Do you also believe that all the years of free labor from slaves didn’t give this country an economic boost outside of the attainability of a developing nation that doesn’t use such methods? It seems like as long as we play by those rules then yea nothing was ever done by white people that would effect the people of today. If that is what you believe than by all means please keep doing so…

          Poe Ettic
          May 10, 2012 at 9:23 am
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          • to answer your first question… YES

            If YOU murdered someone then YOU are responsible for it…. if YOUR great great great grandfather murdered someone then NO you are not responsible and only an ignorant ass fool would think that you are… or even present that as an analogy

            Oh please Poe… some agricultural production in the south was ALL the slaves contributed.. since the 1960′s any advantage that some cotton picking may have given this country has been wiped away MANY times over… time for you to pay up because you are owing back rent. Your attempt of extortion in order to get reperations is transparent…. THAT is what this is really about huh? More free money from whitey… your pathetic

            Keep blaming whitey… every time you do it gives us power over you

            Rock of the Marne
            May 10, 2012 at 6:19 pm
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            • Rock
              The Constitution states that a persons property cannot be taken from them without compensation, wonder how Poe would take it if descendants of slave owners demanded that they be compensated for their property (slaves) that was taken from them? after all slavery was legal, hard earned money was used to buy them, they were feed and clothed, housed and when they were sick they were taken care of, No one would pay hundreds of dollars for a good horse and take it home and beat it to death or starve it, I want mine and I want it now!

              ga steve
              May 10, 2012 at 6:31 pm
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          • Well then, by your logic do you blame other negroes that are still native Africans for the fact that their ancestors sold fellow negroes of other tribes into slavery?
            Also, you mention the “Native Americans”. It is now known that BEFORE the asians that crossed into North America via the Siberian land bridge, there was an ancient Clovis culture people living here. Anthropoligists believe that they must have been subjected to conflict and eventual absorbtion by the invading Asians/Indians. Clovis people originated in Europe, they were white and they were here first! Are the current so-called “Native Americans” still responsible for conquering and absorbing them, effectively destroying that culture in North America?
            Answer only with facts, no BS.

            skull
            May 10, 2012 at 6:32 pm
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            • Steve – it was illegal. If you do something illegal and build a house with the funds, it can be taken away from you and no one owes you a dime. In fact you would be fined for all the stuff the state had to do clean up your mess.

              PEOPLE ARE NOT PROPERTY. Get over yourself. Ugh.

              kewlgirl
              May 10, 2012 at 7:42 pm
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              • kewigirl.
                Wrong, it was not illegal 150 yrs ago to own slaves, you must have missed history class the day that was covered or your history books left it out,

                ga steve
                May 10, 2012 at 8:51 pm
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                • But at the point of Emancipation, no longer considered property. that’s the part you haven’t gotten over yet.

                  kewlgirl
                  May 10, 2012 at 9:19 pm
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                  • kewigirl
                    Lincoln’s emancipation proclamation freed only the slaves in the states in rebellion to the union, not those in the northern states, in other words he claimed to free the ones he couldn’t and didn’t free the ones he could, explain what you mean by thats the part you haven’t gotten over yet,

                    ga steve
                    May 10, 2012 at 9:54 pm
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                    • Seems that would have been pretty nonsensical of Lincoln. wonder what his reason would have been for doing that.
                      Just that you don’t seem to have accepted that people aren’t property and should never be considered property. Especially if you believe what Jefferson said which is that men are endowed with rights given by the Creator – rights of human dignity. Thought that was what made American different – that we believed in the natural rights of man.

                      kewlgirl
                      May 10, 2012 at 10:18 pm

                  • kewigirl
                    The reply feature disappeared on your comment so I will answer here, Read Lincoln’s emancipation proclamation, what I told you is true, I am a member of a historical research society of Southern History, we delve into old records and polish monuments, we accept history as it is warts and all, no sugarcoating or what we want it to be, I am at a loss to understand why you would think that I have a problem that people are not property of course since I am from the South I am automatically called a racist so I can only guess that is why you think that,
                    Deo Vindice.

                    ga steve
                    May 10, 2012 at 10:41 pm
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                    • That keeps happening to my posts. I think I must have a daily quota on # words or something. I’m not calling you a racist. Just don’t understand why you seem to take pride that your forefathers owned and considered people to be property. And as far as history, it’s usually written by the conqueror. It’s never a zero sum game. About the only thing factual I can come up with is why did the chicken cross the road. To get to the other side. Why he wanted to get to the other side is always up for debate. Ok,that’s the jumbo Jack talking (see – I’ve got Southern roots of my own ;) . Have a good night.

                      Kewlgirl
                      May 10, 2012 at 11:32 pm

                    • I like that you’re a historian Steve. I think that is very very cool.

                      Kewlgirl
                      May 10, 2012 at 11:42 pm

                    • kewigirl
                      The reason the chicken crossed road was to prove to the possum it could be done.

                      ga steve
                      May 11, 2012 at 12:05 am

            • Skull, since you said no one responded. I’ll respond. I’ve never talked about who were the original inhabitants of America. I haven’t spoken about the Native Americans either. So if your facts are true, good for you.

              Anything I’ve spoken about wrt to land has to do with folks coming in, taking the land from people who were occupying the land. If you want to say it is conquest, then that’s a fair argument and one I’ve been thinking about. If the people who were occupying the land didn’t organize enough to fight off the people invading, then I guess it’s all fair game.

              kewlgirl
              May 10, 2012 at 8:46 pm
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              • Yes, thank you for correcting me, that was Poe Ettic (as well as many others with the “native” argument) who needed the history lesson on that point. But what about the first part of my post? What do you think about the fact that slavery was an African custom? Africans captured and sold/traded all of the African slaves to the slavers who then transported and sold them into the slave markets of the world. That is an indisputable historical fact, but we never hear much about it do we? I wonder why?

                skull
                May 10, 2012 at 8:57 pm
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                • No one has disputed that. But as was the custom in Africa, when a slave was captured, eventually he was freed and he assimilated into the society. After time, he and his children were indistinguishable from the others in the tribe.

                  The difference here is children of slaves are not considered part of the American tribe. But you made good points.

                  kewlgirl
                  May 10, 2012 at 9:18 pm
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                  • Maybe some of them were, and the women were usually the survivors because they were kept for the pleasure of the warrioes and repeatedly raped, or forced into marriage and assimilated. Many of the males were enslaved until death, unless they escaped or won their freedom in certain types of ritual combat. Also, and this is grisly, some were even used for food, especially in hard drought times when animal game was scarce. Like it or not, it is the truth.
                    But my reasons for making this point to you is that you seem to think that that current American blacks are owed something by white Americans. If that is so, then why don’t their cousins in Africa owe them just as much or even more for being the ones that sold their ancestors into the condition in the first place?

                    skull
                    May 10, 2012 at 9:49 pm
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                    • Yea, didn’t know all of that. I guess that could have happened in some cases. My knowledge was based on a pretty famous book called Things fall apart by this African writer. He seemed to suggest the slaves, in this case he was talking about males, were cared for and eventually freed and assimilated. I’m not going to dispute what you say since I wasn’t there. All blacks don’t think whites owe them anything other than not being denied opportunity.

                      kewlgirl
                      May 10, 2012 at 10:13 pm

          • Poe it seems to me that your beef is really with dead white people over 150 years old… too bad we cant dig them up so you can get even with them.

            Can I hold you responsible for the sins of your father? How could I blame you for something HE did when YOU were not even here? Only someone with the mental capacity of a 2 year old cant see that…

            Im done with you and Kewlgirl…. we will never agree on this so lets just agree to disagree. Im tired of it. The two of you are convinced that you are victims and thier is NOTHING I can do for you. I know many black folks who do not think as you do… I feel sorry for them because they are the true minority in this country.

            I would ALWAYS rather have a black conservative as a neighbor than a white liberal… its a matter of beliefs.

            Rock of the Marne
            May 10, 2012 at 6:40 pm
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            • Rock of the Marne-
              Oh but there is something that you “could” do for them (and all like them). You could hand over your governance to them. You could hand over everything that you own. You could sell your children into slavery for them. You could fall on your knees, renounce everything that you believe to be right and true and worship at their idols. You could cut your own throat and bleed out for them. That is all that they wish. The question is, are you willing?

              skull
              May 10, 2012 at 7:02 pm
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              • Skull
                And it still wouldn’t be enough.

                ga steve
                May 10, 2012 at 7:23 pm
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                • You said it brother! Plus, do ya notice how slow either of ‘em are to dispute my earlier post with any facts at all? When their own logic (or shall we say illogic) is thrown back at ‘em they ignore it- LOSERS.

                  skull
                  May 10, 2012 at 8:13 pm
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              • Skull
                BINGO! Thats what blacks like THEM really want… for all of us white devils to drop dead and hand over everything to them. They have no desire to assimilate and thier vigorous attempts to create thier own identity/culture segregated from the rest of America, only proves my point… yet they cry and whine that they are not accepted. They are only 12.8% of the population and we are 67% so THEY must assimilate to US.

                Rock of the Marne
                May 11, 2012 at 5:01 am
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  26. to wind up on AWD I was trying to find out who the nimrod was that played Jerry on the state farm commercials. He makes me sick…although Jessica declerq is an actual state farm agent the dipsh^t that is Jerry is some fruitcake actor. I wound up on AWD. I’ve been coming here ever since. The post was about why it is OK to make white men look like inept, whiney, stupid people and if you tried that with any other group of people you’d be pulling your ads. Case in point Ashton Kuctcher or whatever his name is. His ad was pulled immediately because he portrayed some guy from India for a chip Ad.

    Vicio Malo
    May 10, 2012 at 5:18 am
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    • Do you guys remember the disgusting, I MEDAN TOTALLY DISGUSTING commercial showing the black AFFLEET in the bath tub with White men using straws in the bath water at the edge of the tub to offer a jaccuzi effect!! Reverse those roles and hear the howl!

      SKIP
      May 10, 2012 at 8:12 pm
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      • Yeah, I do remember. Yuck! But let’s face it, white males have been relegated to be the brunt of all things degrading in commercial t.v. for quite awhile now. The fat slobe is always a white male, the dumb ass is always a white male, the whimpering wiener is always a white male, and on and on.
        Also, have you noticed just how over-represented minorities and blacks in particular have become in commercials. I mean they make up about 15% of the population at best and they are on nearly EVERY commercial. One would think that they make up the entire economy the way these comapnies pander to them in their advertising. That should tell you that it’s not just about money, these big corps are deep into liberal politics and big government’s social engineering via brain-washing.

        skull
        May 10, 2012 at 9:13 pm
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        • LOL actually its only 12.8% which only illuminates my point to a greater degree…. its never enough when it comes to them

          Rock of the Marne
          May 11, 2012 at 5:04 am
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  27. Question: What happens to blacks if white males refuse to pay taxes?

    Riots? Canabalism? Protests?

    WASH DC Marches?

    How will the parasite Obama blacks exist if “Atlas Shrugs”?

    REV Wright
    May 10, 2012 at 10:40 pm
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  28. Regarding ga steve and kewlgirl’s conversation-
    Yes ga steve is correct- The Emancipation Proclamation was simply a war tactic to get the blacks in the south to revolt, thereby adding an internal rebellion into the mix against the Confederates. At the time slavery was legal and in practice in the WHOLE nation, not just the south. The E.P. by Lincoln specifically freed the slaves in the south, NOT in the north! So, he freed those he couldn’t legally free and left those that he could in slavery. Lincoln was no friend to the blacks, despite the century and a half of spin. He actually had a plan to deport most of them after the war was won and over, but he was assassinated before he could implement it.
    The founders had intended for the words of the Declaration of Independence to be IDEALS that would eventually become reality-
    “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” Notice that the word men is capitalized here? It meant “mankind”. These men were not bigots or sexists, they were simply products of their time who knew that things couldn’t happen all at once. It would have destroyed the cause of separation/revolt from England if this had been the case.

    skull
    May 10, 2012 at 10:46 pm
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  29. Slavery Shmavery.

    In a land, far, far away, in a time long, long ago, a slave boat was docked on the shores of west Africa. On land, a weaker tribe of Africans was being sold out by thier bretheron, a stronger tribe, who probably wishes they could be in the USA in modern times instead of that shithole they call the cradle of evolution. At the time, there were white slaves of European ancestry, but black slaves were highly sought, as their physical attributes were far beyond that of white slaves.
    As a result, the weaker African slave tribes benefitted from life on Western shores, becoming educated, and given opportunities to assimilate, though they never assimilated into the culture which delivered them, who fully accept them as thier equals in modern time. Do you think things would be different if the modern day blacks would have been descendents of the ruling tribes?

    Slavery, as it turned out, has benefitted a select class of Africans. Blacks in the US have a higher living standard than any black population on the planet.

    texson
    May 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm
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  30. kewigirl
    Where are you? its late for your history lesson, can’t wait all day got to chop my cotton.

    ga steve
    May 11, 2012 at 12:29 pm
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