QUESTION OF THE DAY: DO YOU AGREE WITH RI STATE REP PETER PALUMBO?
This saga has been around awhile, read about the outcome last week. After all the political stories with the presidential election each and every day I had forgotten about this story, until I saw this. Thought I’d put this here today and see what your opinions and thoughts are regarding this matter.
This is via The Blaze:
Last week, we brought you the story about a prayer mural that was banned in Cranston, Rhode Island, after a young atheist protested its presence in her school. On Wednesday, Jessica Ahlquist, 16, won her case against Cranston High School West when U.S. District Court Judge Ronald Lagueux ruled that the district must remove the banner immediately and pay her legal fees.
Now, a new controversy is brewing after Rhode Island State Representative Peter Palumbo, a Democrat, made comments about Ahlquist on the John DePetro Show. During his interview, Palumbo called her “an evil little thing” and said ”Poor thing. And it’s not her fault. She’s being trained to be like that.”
While the first statement may have been said in a joking manner, non-believers are equally upset with what he said next. When the show’s host questioned whether Palumbo really believes the young girl is evil, he softened his rhetoric a bit, saying, “…she’s being coerced by evil people.”
In the Humanist Examiner, Michael Stone penned his disgust with the politician’s commentary:
Palumbo’s wholesale slander of an entire community is being challenged by atheists, freethinkers and other secular Americans. This weekend an intense campaign of protest began to register complaint and disgust with Palumbo’s derogatory and disrespectful remarks.
While atheists and non-believers are outraged by his statements, this seems to be only one example of the push-back the young woman is receiving as a result of her activism. Last week, following the court’s decision in her favor, she shared some of the challenges she’s been coping with.
“It has been a very long and difficult year for me and my family and we’re just so glad it has finally been decided,” Ahlquist said. “I’ve had to deal with a lot of harassment and negative flak from people who disagree with my views and opinions, but it’s all worth it.”
There is more to the story with links, you can find it all here.
Democrat Rep. Peter Palumbo speaks his mind:
Here’s a brief history from last week, her speaking as well.
Ahlquist‘s main argument in the case has been that a prayer mural present in her school’s auditorium is offensive to non-Christians. Additionally, she claims that it has made her feel ostracized and, thus, she has petitioned fervently for its removal.
Here’s a news report from April 2011, during which Ahlquist discusses her opposition to the mural:
So let’s see, one lone sixteen year old girl, who doesn’t like the words ‘Heavenly Father’ and ‘Amen’ manages to take down a banner that has hung in the high school auditorium for over 60 some years because it offends her and her atheist sensibilities…isn’t that just precious!
By the way, if you listen to the video, she also wants “In God We Trust” to be removed from all money as well.
Of course the ACLU wouldn’t have anything to do with this from the get-go…now would they?
They worked together hand in glove, and I have to wonder about her parents involvement or non-involvement as well.
I want to know when this is going to be put to a halt in our country…or do you already think this and many other stories like these will end up winning the day across this land and help destroy this nation and what she stands for once and for all?
Palumbo put it in a nutshell…“…she’s being coerced by evil people.”
Update: Victory Vid: Teen Atheist Behind Prayer Mural Ban Instructs Fellow Students How to Do the Same
You can read this in full here.
Evil is as evil does…and she’s doing the Devil’s work in my opinion!
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I agree with Palumbo’s original statement. She IS an evil little thing!
John Henry Eden
January 17, 2012 at 8:18 pm
JHE…
We totally agree on this…for me, especially after reading and watching the update at the bottom of this blog post.
Infuriating!
bigtimer
January 18, 2012 at 1:34 pm
More militant atheism. I’m what you’d consider a non-believer, but none of anything she’s whining about offends me. I’m sick of the whole freedom from religion screwballs screaming “That offends me” at anything Christian. I don’t see them screaming at and suing muslims.
I don’t go around bashing other’s religious beliefs. Well, except Islam. I’ll bash that crap all day long, since I don’t consider it religion.
J in MS
January 17, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Athiests don’t bash moslems because the moslems will kill them.
John Henry Eden
January 18, 2012 at 7:32 pm
This bull will only stop when progressive lawyers and activist judges are gone. They have completely changed the meaning of the constitution to suit their adgenda and will not stop until they are thrown out!
Ronnie
January 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Hear! Hear!
Along with major Tort Reform and groups like ACLU and ilk be made to pay all costs if they lose the case…including not using taxpayers money to do so.
bigtimer
January 17, 2012 at 9:29 pm
bigtimer
The school should appeal this decision and have it go to a higher court, that way this girl and her family will have to endure a long drawn out battle. In the mean time the mural would stay where its at.
ga steve
January 17, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Hi ga steve…
Seems to me in many cased people give-up and give-in too easily…don’t know about this school, but sometimes depending on topic and funding people do go all the way to the top fighting this BS…
What makes me angry is we shouldn’t even have to be worrying about things like this in our country…this should be a given, and if it offends your sensibilities, you can exit this country any day of the week…and don’t let the door hit in the a$$ on the way out.
…and STAY OUT!
bigtimer
January 17, 2012 at 10:41 pm
bigtimer
Here’s a little jewel about this judge, I believe if the school pushed it they could reverse the judges decision and if the people of Rhode Island pushed just a little bit they probably could have this judge removed.
ga steve
January 17, 2012 at 11:24 pm
And heres the ACLU victory press confrence.
http://atheistasshole.wordpress.com/tag/ronald-lagueux/
ga steve
January 17, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Howdy ga steve…
Did you forget to put the link in about the ‘little jewel about the judge?’
Sure would like to read it if ya have it handy.
Thanks friend ~
bigtimer
January 17, 2012 at 11:49 pm
bigtimer
I guess I did, here it is.
http://caught.net/caught/lagu.htm
ga steve
January 18, 2012 at 12:14 am
Wow ga steve….thank you for that info. Speaks volumes doesn’t it?
How is it this guy and others like him retain their powerful places in life…I detest this BS, I have since I’ve been a young gal reading True Crime books and such…these guys and gals get away with everything, including the kitchen sink…and nothing ever happens to them!
bigtimer
January 18, 2012 at 12:37 am
The cowards use the worthless, scum sucking atheist judges to get their minority view forced on the majority. The time for court action may be ending. Maybe a burning house would solve the problem. Judicial violence will, ultimately, lead to actual physical revenge.
Fed Up Texan
January 17, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I think they should ignore her right along with that black robed piece of scum. This is just another instance of a libberpuke scumbag who desperatley needs his ass kicked by being recalled . The people ARE going to have to make a stand somewhere/sometime, why not NOWWWWWWW!!! It just makes me want to barf when the people set back and let these kind of people shove it in just a little further. The people should have put a stop to this a LONG time ago. If it bothers this little bitch that much, then excuse her from going into the gym period.
Jimmer
January 17, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Only one other item I wanted to mention here real quick before I take care of things at home for a bit.
Can you believe this is from a democrat that is speaking out about this on this radio show. You can be sure the msm will keep this silent.
If you read the whole story in the link provided I think it said the other libs are going to try to take him and his seat down over this…does that surprise anyone?
This man speaks his man, speaks the truth as he sees it…and you don’t dare that if you have a ‘D’ after your name in politics.
bigtimer
January 17, 2012 at 11:03 pm
She’s on the side of the left-wing fascists so she is either evil or an unwitting tool. Adults frequently prod kids to get involved in these crusades just as drug dealers use kids as drug mules and sales people. It insulates the adults from their shameful behavior. Using kids like this is also rationalized as a “lesson in civic affairs” for the little darlings. That’s nonsense of course because the adults use the kids so they don’t have to learn the entire lesson, which is that there are consequences for destructive behavior. There’s nothing particularly innocent or morally superior about people who aren’t adults yet. The average adult is infinitely wiser than the average kid. In fact, most kids are fairly messed up and selfish one way or another. Of course one of the oldest and biggest leftist lies is that children are somehow superior to adults in most ways. It’s just another way for leftist adults to use the kids as foot soldiers against their adult enemies: decent right wing White citizens. Third-World savages are used by the leftists in exactly the same way.
Enoch Powell
January 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm
I lol’ed very hard at this little tweeter butt.
If you want to have some fun with this little darling atheist check out her micro expressions.
By freezing the video frame right at the end of the video at 1:06 just before it frames out, it’s as plain as day on her face, she doesn’t even believe her own malarkey.
“I exchange gifts with my loved ones who do believe” -as she looks up and to the right then biting her lower lip.
Does anyone really believe that once Christianity is destroyed some other religion or pseudo-religion won’t fill the vacuum.
Name one society or culture past or present solely based on analytic thought, that excludes all belief.
In India where ALL the engineers in the world spawn, they don’t eat cows for religious reasons,
good I say,
more steak for me.
Waspish
January 18, 2012 at 12:47 am
Waspish,Your 5th statement:BINGO! And you know what pseudo religion that will be.
Dirty Al the Infidel
January 18, 2012 at 1:11 am
Good article Big. What was it AWD called our country a few blogs ago? “The United States of the Offended”. Yep, you know I was taught that “If your eye offended you to pluck it out.” Don’t look at it. I’m sorry to say this but I believe things are only going to get worse, “for a time”. Sorry to be negative, “just bein real”. In parting,I’d like to quote something.
“READ THE BOOK,WE WIN. Fair Dinkum.”
Dirty Al the Infidel
January 18, 2012 at 1:22 am
Dirty Al…
I’m with you in this regard as well, I feel things like this will intensify rapidly…the leftist enemies see what may be coming down the road, it will take time…but they see it.
I’ve got to hit my head on a pillow ~
Catch you all tomorrow…God willing.
bigtimer
January 18, 2012 at 1:55 am
BT,
Reminds me of the early seventies when my high school (Lee’s Summit, MO) had a beautiful candle lighting event on the last day before Christmas Vacation. It was truly beautiful… from one candle which represented the birth of Christ… the flame was then forwarded to each candle of every student in the auditorium.
A single student and the stinking ACLU ended the event because the school district bowed down due to the legal cost.
I find it amazing how a handful of individuals and the stinking ACLU which absolutely hates anything representing good in our society takes aways my freedoms.
Paul Bonnichsen
January 18, 2012 at 1:59 am
Paul…
I despise the ACLU with everything in me able to do so…have for so long now, I can’t remember the length of time.
They are our enemies, and everyone knows it. There commie ties are deep as well on many ways…I know that’s not a newsflash, but it amazes me they and a few other groups still have the power they do.
People should have fought back a lot harder long ago…and this would have been put to a halt.Now it’s been a on a runaway train…and I don’t see it slowing up anytime soon.
Early day tomorrow, got to move away from this keyboard and hit the sack.
Btw…what happened to you and your school makes me hair on fire as well…it’s a disgrace what ‘We the People’ as a whole have let happen….we have to put a stop to this once and for all.
It’s heartbreaking what we’ve witnessed happen to this country decade after decade right up to this very day.
bigtimer
January 18, 2012 at 2:08 am
I had originally decided not to post concerning this subject but, stupid got the best of me. I have to admit I am a “Non believer.” More exactly I have problems with what has been called organized religion. After Jim and Tammy Faye Baker, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Jones and Fred Phelps, etc I moved away from such. I have read the bible twice from cover to cover and I find quite a lot of sensible advice there. However, I consider it human logic rather than divinely inspired. A number of years ago an evangelical type said to me “If you believe as you do why don’t you just kill someone. There wouldn’t be any reason not to.” The reason I answered was I don’t want someone to kill me for no reason. If I am classed as an atheist, so be it. At least I am not in the class with Madeline Murray, Michael Newdow and such. You can put copies of the commandments in every post office and courthouse in the land and it will not bother me one bit. There is some good advice in that document. “In God We Trust” printed on our money is fine as long as it spends. The young lady in this confrontation seems to be a pawn being used by adults you are looking for attention. It’s sad but it happens. All condemnations accepted.
not2latenow
January 18, 2012 at 9:22 am
not2latenow…
You won’t get any condemnation from me…I’m glad you decided to post.
Your opinions on this matter are well-stated…and I agree with much of what you said, plus agree with your summation regarding Jessica, she’s nothing but a pawn…hopefully as she matures with age she will come to realize that.
Unfortunately, in the meantime, much damage is done when it comes to issues like this across this land. I just tire of this type of thing…in fact it disgusts me to no end.
bigtimer
January 18, 2012 at 11:19 am
And you’ll never recieve condemnation from me either. At least you’ve made an attempt and READ THE BOOK. Thanks and welcome.
Dirty Al the Infidel
January 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm
not2latenow,
Jim and Tammy Faye and Jim Jones and the others use religion for their own means. I dont like mega churches and these large religious orders, My faith is a very simple down to earth type, I can worship god without the useless baggage, most of the sunday tv preachers are like getting a letter from a politician in the end they gonna hit you up for money.
ga steve
January 18, 2012 at 10:11 am
Ga steve
I can identify fully with your assessment. I am probably more agnostic than atheist. I have spent a lifetime in an allied part of science. In 1633 Galileo postulated the earth was not the center of the universe and he was convicted and spent the rest of his life under house arrest. This is an example of the conflict of religion and politics. Islam is the height of this as is those that want to control society by religious fiat. I have no problem with a belief in god as long as it rests with and does not denigrate science. If you or anyone else wants to discuss God’s place in the formation of the universe I am willing to sit down and have that discussion. Sorry for the ramblings.
not2latenow
January 18, 2012 at 10:43 am
not2latenow,
I claimed to be an agnostic until age twenty-eight. I went to church almost every Sunday growing up and like many kids I felt it was torture. Then around age twenty-three, the Holy Spirit started tugging at my heart while I was in the military. I spoke with our Military Chaplin regarding my feelings… to make the story short, I finally accepted Jesus Christ at twenty-eight.
I find it somewhat amazing how we teach history in our schools based on books which have written documents known as history… the Bible is just another history book instructed to be written by God… or at least that is my belief.
Anyhow not2latenow, I hope there will come a day when the Holy Spirit takes hold of your heart as it did me… God Bless.
Paul Bonnichsen
January 18, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Paul Bonnichsen:
Thanks for the thoughts. Part of my upbringing was in a boarding home operated by the Episcopal Church in Jacksonville, FL. I guess you can say I am a backslid Episcopal. At my age and if familial history has anything to do with it I have approximately 4 or 5 years left to mill around. I have no problem with your belief and I admire you for your honesty. The term agnostic just means I’m not sure and I would like something more than the writings of ancient, superstitious men to define my view of the world. What I have a problem with is those that demand that education teach that the earth is 2000 years old. I think there is more proof to the contrary. Be secure in your belief since it can provide a great deal of comfort when bad things happen.
not2latenow
January 18, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Paul, Praise The Lord, I’m so glad to see another persons statement of faith. God bless you Bro. I’d give one too but it would take up alot of space. Someday I’ll share also. I will just say this I was backslidden and wandered in the Wilderness for over 30yrs. Well the Lord laid the smackdown on me (no disrespect intended)and has rekindled the fire. Thanks for sharing.
Dirty Al the Infidel
January 18, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Friends…there’s an important update added to this story, video and reading link included. It’s at the bottom of the blog post above.
Seems Sweet Jessica is now instructing other students how to do as she did.
Despicable, disgusting and a disgrace!
bigtimer
January 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm
“I wouldn‘t say that I go shoving atheism down anyone else’s throat,” she said. Say What? What the hell do you think your actions are doing? This girl isn’t old enough to have formed these opinions on her own. Someone needs to check the medicine cabinet in that house.
not2latenow
January 18, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Having been raised by Bible thumping northern Baptist parents, I can proudly state I am an agnostic. If this individual REALLY was an atheist, this would not bother them. To a REAL atheist, God does not exist and “god” (small G) is only a word like “air” or “rock”. If the concept offends them, then they are NOT real atheists. They are subconsciously afraid that they may be wrong and when they finally die they may actually end up burning in hell forever.
Paul Dillon
January 18, 2012 at 2:08 pm
The ACLU. ain’t nothing but a communist bunch of lawyers who are systematically destroying everything that has made this country great. What they and their liberal lap dog judges have done is twist the words of the constitution to mean anything they want it to mean.All they are doing is walking all over the rights of one religion in favor of another that agree with their communist views. They do not represent freedom at all.They only represent Obama’s socialist marxist agenda. This is another reason why we can’t afford to have Obama for another 4 years so he can stack the courts with more liberal activist judges.
guy hontz
January 18, 2012 at 4:02 pm
“This is another reason why we can’t afford to have Obama for another 4 years so he can stack the courts with more liberal activist judges.”
Nail on Head guy…Nail on Head!
SCOTUS and other judges are one of the main reasons we have to get rid of him ASAP!
bigtimer
January 18, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Somebody needs to put the binders on the State dept,and Dept of Energy too.
Dirty Al the Infidel
January 18, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Hey all..remember Jessica Ahlquist and the removal of the auditorium banner…you’ve just got to check this out now!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/atheists-to-file-civil-rights-complaint-after-florists-refuse-to-deliver-to-teen-behind-prayer-mural-ban/
I may make a blog post about this later.
bigtimer
January 21, 2012 at 2:49 pm