FOCUSING ON THE WRONG THINGS!

FOCUSING ON THE WRONG THINGS!

I don’t see what it is about Santorum that moved him to the top of the GOP charts…except he isn’t Romney. But Santorum? Isn’t he the guy who endorsed Arlen Specter? Plus, Santorum is putting social issues out there a little too strong for me. That might play well to the Evangelicals in the Republican Party but it will alienate a lot of independents and moderate Republicans in the general election. But the biggest thing about Santorum? I think he is tremendously boring and uninspiring as a candidate.

AWD has made it clear that I will support the GOP nominee..whoever it is. But Santorum, to me, really has no business running for the GOP nomination. He has been a consistent bottom feeder in the polls while each non-Romney has had their rise to the top and crash to the bottom. Perry, Cain, Newt have all had their day in the sun and collapsed. I just feel Santorum is the latest to not be Romney…but he too will crash hard.

Personally, AWD doesn’t like to see social issues getting so much attention. Abortion or gay marriages are not bankrupting America. I may not agree with those issues…but I believe we have much bigger fish to fry in ridding the country of Husein. Obama won a huge majority of independents in 2008 but has lost them. Why push them back over to the Dims because of focusing the election on social issues? I believe this is a huge error and eventually Santorum will collapse while Romney stays the course speaking about Obama and fixing America’s fiscal problems. That is not an endorsement of Romney. I am equally underwhelmed by each GOP candidate.

Today, a video of Santorum surfaced from an interview in 2006. He says in the interview that birth control is dangerous to women. Huh?

I just think Santorum’s focusing on the wrong issues. Whipping up the amen corner in the GOP is one thing. Getting the Reagan Democrats to support him is another. Here’s the deal. I don’t believe Santorum can beat Obama. There! I said it. Neither could Ron Paul. Santorum doesn’t have the pizzazz to inspire the country. I’m not naive enough to think we’ll have a Reagan-like inspiration to tell us it’s Morning in America. But a dull guy who hasn’t been involved in politics since..when was it?…and wears sweater vests as his signature just doesn’t get my motor running and heading for the highway.

Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think so. Actually, AWD would rather see Newt than Santorum. There, I said it! And I can’t believe I did! Am I wrong? Am I missing something? Is Santorum THAT exciting? And if he is, why hasn’t he been before? Help me out here!

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  1. Prez Duderino..Newt over Santorum? Say it isn’t so! After all the derailment of Newt I’ve read from you here in the past…what happened to you, surely you jest! (Just kidding, I guess you’re serious, but still it takes me aback.)

    As to social issues not mattering that much to you…well, they do to millions of the of many of us out here. Many laws that are made in that sausage maker on Capitol Hill all involve social issues one way or the other if you really sit back and think about it.

    As to that vid with Santorum, he was saying he isn’t against contraceptives, he was saying what has happened with the society as a whole when it comes to young girls having no morals or caring to have them, he was explaining it was destruction to the family and what American values are supposed to be…destruction of society as a whole type of thing, responsibility etc…where was he wrong on that?

    Romney or Santorum is okay with me, never Newt…but Santorum has fire in his belly…none of the others do, this is what attracts others to him. Vest or no vest.

    Btw…there was a rare occurrence in the household when Santorum made a floor speech in the Senate, it was griping, solemn, true..somber, neither one of us said a word, we watched, listened, tears came silently down my checks…my big lumber-jack hubby was misty-eyed…neither one of us have ever forgotten that, he brings it up often.

    I think over time, if people get to know Santorum, the more he will gain…not less.

    I know the smear-campaign is in full-force against Rick now, long knives are out.. but make no mistake, he ain’t a quitter, nor a whiner…like Newtie-Pooh.

    Just my ramblings at the end of a long day myself…jumbled as it may be, hope I explained my thoughts on this matter so others can decipher them. ~ That’s my two-cents…and I’m sticking to both of those pennies! After-all, another social issue is paying your bills…and ever penny counts, especially at the gas pupmp and grocery store these days…thank you Barack Hussein Obama! – Job Well Done…Mission Accomplished!

    Go Rick Go!

    Santorum/West ’12!

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    • There is no doubt in my mind that if Santorum were to have Allen West be his running mate, together they would devastate Obama. West has very rabid supporters and West is like a battleship. They’d squash Obammy like the cockroach that he is.

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      • Nimitz…yep…and they’d do it with the lights off as well as the lights on when it comes to getting rid of the cockroach, for all to see… if ya get my drift.

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      • RedStaterNYC says:

        Three months ago, I would have agreed whole-heartedly with you and Biggie on this. Dare I say that West is falling out of favor with me? The Pigford settlement was strike numero uno. NDAA was a big swing-and-a-miss #2. (I’ll count the email to DWS demanding shee insult him to his face to be a badly-called ball.)

        He whiffs on #3, and I’m putting him into Newt territory–i.e., talks a great game but doesn’t follow through with his actions.

        But, what I don’t disagree with in the least, is that the game he talks is bar none one of the best out there.

        And don’t get me wrong–I’m all for West continuing to beat up on The Party of Evil just as I’m for Newt continuing to beat up on the MSM…I just wouldn’t want to see either of them in the POTUS (or VPOTUS) driver’s seat.

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    • Big, do you put abortion over out of control deficit spending as a danger to our country? If you say yes, then consider how many of the millions of children aborted over the past 20 years would now be current-day street-terrorists on welfare and/or in prison? Oh, and also voting Democrat with millions of votes to vote in more welfare. This is the side I never hear from pro-lifers. Who is going to raise all the offspring of the single moms pumping out said future street-terrorizing, Democrat-voting children? We all know who is going to pay for them!

      That being said, abortion would never be an option for me and I believe it is morally wrong. But it is legal. I also believe murder is wrong….and it is illegal. People still do it. I would like to hear how right-to-lifers are going to solve the problem of another million or so street thugs in 15 years on our welfare rolls? I tend to look at issues through fiscal eyes more than social eyes, as you know.

      awd

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      • Good-Morning AWD…

        Both issues matter greatly to me.

        I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

        As for anyone person deciding what the outcome of a child would have been had the babe not being aborted is out of this world to me….how would any of us know if that person would have ended up productive or not?

        Of course fiscal issues and our deficit is of the utmost importance to me, as to all of us I would imagine…but aborting a helpless babe in the womb is beneath contempt to me.

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        • Hi Big, how do I know they wouldn’t grow up and be productive? Statistical data. We know who is aborted and we know who creates the majority of crime. What will you do to make them productive citizens if abortion is overturned? You won’t. Society will pay.

          I also find abortion morally reprehensible. The same with being a criminal, living on welfare, etc. people do things I find morally reprehensible every day. But there will be a tremendous fiscal reality to overturning Roe v Wade. No right to lifer has explained how we will deal with that. Just my opinion

          awd

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          • AWD…I understand and know about the statistics, knew that was coming, which is fine. I just don’t view a helpless babe in the womb by statistics. I hope to see the day when Roe/Wade is overturned. Let the states do as they will, there will be plenty that okay that…the heartless mothers to be can run there and murder their babies.

            What I’m infuriated about is when ‘We the People’, the tax-payers are required to pay for any abortion…it’s reprehensible to me…always will be. That’s how I see it thru my Viewfinder in Life.

            Btw…the cost of tax-payers being forced to pay for abortions is a ‘fiscal’ matter, big time! Planned Parenthood and now OCare require that we pay for abortions, they can’t undo what the filthy congress-critters have done, and are doing now, it’s despicable insanity to me…a disgrace!

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      • AWD
        I see the spending and the abortion issue tied together. I may be cockeyed on these issues, but the spending and giving in entitlement programs removes a lot of the economic reasons why NOT to get pregnant.

        When the professional welfare recipients find that their incomes will not increase, they will realize, slowly , because most of them are dumb as a bag of hammers, that there is no more money to have 3 other guy’s kids. No more money, it doesn’t do any good to have more kids.

        Almost any of the issues we deal with comes back to deficit spending.

        Like BT, I abhor abortion. Stopping abortion first will do little to turn the country around. I hate abortion, yet I would vote for a strong fiscal/financial leader before an abortion reformer.

        That said, what do we do as the next step to discourage and even stop using the taking of human life as an acceptable (not by most of us), contraceptive measure?

        I shall never forget the picture that Dave posted on our old site. That beautiful child, apparently perfectly formed, lying dead at the hands of those to whom no life is sacred.

        I also realize that the majority of those abortions are to those who would be born and grow with the least of respect for community. Is killing them the answer? I know no one here believes that.

        The issue is most sensitive, but I believe the improvements will come from sound economics and then the individual issue can be , hopefully resolved to mOST people’s satisfaction.

        A personal PS– I am a Catholic, father of 7, (2 have passed, God rest them), and grandfather of 8. I do not attend church and due to the Catholic church support of illegal immigration among a few issues, I do not practice my faith. In spite of that, my great respect for the Christian issues has me seeing red that Obamacare would force religious institutions to perform procedures that challenge their faith. It is in clear violation of the First Amendment.

        Fiscal responsibility will have us moving in the right direction to change other issues. That fortune (or God, if you prefer), would give us a candidate who realizes that and at the same time recognizes the evil of other programs would be quite a blessing.

        Who would that be???

        Sincerely, I am at sea as to who will be the best for America out of the candidates we have……

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      • Uh oh! Here we go…

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  2. I was a Newtie but after watching Santorum lately, I’m proud to say that I am returning to my roots, the Geek Squad and sweater vests. I Pick Rick!

    I will caution tho, that he needs to really step it up and start hitting Obama and hard. Spend less time on social issues and more time guttin Obama. He should ignore Romney, Newt & Paul and just go for Obama’s jugular.

    I know why he resonates with people; he’s honest, doesn’t sound rehearsed and his beliefs and whole demeanor are representative of “the good ole days” when there was still some sanity left. Who knows, maybe Obama is actually helping Rick’s campaign, people are so fed up and feeling inflamed that they yearn for the good ole days and I think that’s what they see in Rick. Let’s hope he keeps up the momentum tho. He’s got the numbers now, he just has to knock Obama’s block off, cut off the head of the snake.

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  3. Pretty much spot on with Santorum except I think only Ron Paul can beat Obama because he brings over Independents and Democrats.

    The reason for these poll “surges” are the Republicans appear pretty unhappy with the whole field of candidates…and the Media won’t give a fair shake to Ron Paul.

    Still I do think truth wins out and Paul getting shafted in the Maine vote can help to stop some of obvious anti-Paul fraud that’s happening.

    Despite what the polls say…his numbers are growing. The idea of Liberty is bigger than Dr. Paul.

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    • RedStaterNYC says:

      “The idea of Liberty is bigger than Dr. Paul.”

      A-effing-men.

      And it’s getting bigger every day.

      I’ve got a young, libtarded, Obama 2008-voting cousin who is now a Ron Paul supporter.

      I hope he’s a bellwether.

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  4. I had a chance to meet Rick briefly a long time ago when I was doing a military event in Pennsylvania. I wasn’t into politics at the time, but I liked Rick. He seemed like a wise older brother. I truly felt like he was a trustable character. Now that I’m more into politics, I feel the same about Rick. There aren’t any other politicians I can say I would trust with my money (tax dollars). I think Rick is in it for the right reasons versus the power. I think he loves the America that the greatest generation built and that he really believes we can get back there by re-adopting the values and work ethic of the late 40s and 50s. It’s a long shot, but it sure beats the crap out of the progressive nonsense that has gotten us here.

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    • RedStaterNYC says:

      Doyle, in my libtarded days, Santorum was the guy to mock, in large part for his unabashedly moral conservatism. (The mockery being, of course, a standard libtard tactic that’s still very much alive. See, e.g., the Urban Dictionary definition for “santorum”…if you dare.)

      Of course, now being a good bit older and at least a little bit wiser, I respect the guy a ton for his unabashedly moral conservatism.

      That said, as AWD was getting at, you wear the sweater-vest and you type-cast yourself as a Mr. Rogers–great for warm, neighborly kindness; not so great for rallying the troops for an impending arduous and bloody battle.

      The latter, of course, being what we need over the next few months and years.

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      • Redstater..

        I was thinking the same thing a couple weeks ago but now I’m asking myself that maybe it is us, “we the people” who need to be honest with ourselves. This is “our” war against Obommie the Commie and not just 1 guy/candidate can fight it alone. Maybe it is us who need to fight harder to slap that sh*t eatin grin off of Obommie’s face. I think if we were to all stand up and speak the truth, saying what it is we REALLY want (sanity restored) we could carry our nominee across the finish line. At CPAC, Palin said that no matter who becomes our candidate, we’re going to have to unite and help carry them across the finish line. Soo…with that being said, I looked at Santorum again and realized that after all the inflaming Obommie has caused, Americans are starving for some sanity, some honesty and morals. I see that in Santorum. I think we need to let him know that we’re in this fight together and that we’ve all got to fight real hard to kick Obommie the Commie out and as Americans who love America, speak to each other about how to fight this war AND include Rick on that. He said he will listen to the people so if he’s being honest about that, then before the primaries, we should tell him how we are going to/need to fight this war and see if he’s listening. I think he will but we’ll find out soon enough.

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  5. The whole problem is that no matter how hard he hits Obummer, if the MSM doesn’t show it then nobody will hear it…That includes Fox news, who is definitely in the tank for Mittons..

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    • RedStaterNYC says:

      Yup. I had a recent conversation with my young, far-left, Haavaad-educated, libtarded cousins, and their staunchly conservative, Rush-Limbaugh-loving parents. Neither group–neither group–has ever heard of the Drudge Report or HotAir.

      Sad to think that so many–from young to old–have not copped on to the blogosphere as the better way of staying informed.

      As the koan goes, “If a trees falls in the forest and no one’s around to hear it…”

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  6. RedStaterNYC says:

    I wrote a long comment here but then my computer sh*t the bed and I lost the whole thing. I’ll take it as a sign to STFU and write something shorter. So here ’tis:

    Romney/Paul 2012!!!

    There…I said it!

    (I’m…dreaming…of a whiiiiiite…ticket…

    Just like the ones I used to know…)

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    • RedState
      My computer crashed early last night and I tried everything I could to get it to respond, this morning I picked up my tower and banged it on the floor a couple times, seems to be working fine now.

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      • GA, sounds like you should be changing your handle to “The Fonz”!

        Usually when I attempt that maneuver (which is quite often, I’m afraid), all I end up with is a broken computer.

        Or, more often, a busted keyboard (which usually ends up somehow under my falling fist).

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      • ga steve… I gave up on desktop computers. I only use laptops. That way you can beat the computer, monitor and keyboard on the floor at the same time. Saves time. Works for me.

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    • RedState.
      I could pull the handle on that ticket, One of Pauls problems seems to be some of his support’s in your face, this way or no way. You can’t grab me by the throat and expect my heart and mind to follow.

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  7. There is a genuiness to Sen. Santorum as well as an articulated economic philosophy…also a realistic foreign policy approach…unfortunately the MSM has been trying to encumbcer his campaign with cultural conservative issues rather than allow his message to get out…a multi dimensional campaign portrayed as single issue

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  8. Santorum’s appeal is his genuineness. That lack of polish is what people want today. They are wary of slick, professionally packaged candidates. I can’t get excited about him either, however Romney strikes me as a phony, willing to say anything to get elected. We already have enough phony Republicans in D.C.

    Santorum’s focus on social issues is not a liability because contrary to the MSM narrative, a growing majority of Americans of all stripes are waking up to the danger of government intrusion in their lives. At any rate, the president brought the subject of social issues to the forefront with his administration’s recent assault on the First Amendment. Santorum recognizes that this is an important issue to most Americans and is focusing on it in a way that resonates because it’s not phony. We’ve had two of the biggest phonies in the White House for the last 3 years… The Messiah and his consort, Queen Moochelle. The people want a president who works in their interest, not someone who spends more time on the links than he does in the Oval Office. Nor do they want a First Lady who spends money like a trailer park lottery winner while telling the folks how to live.

    Bottom line, Republicans will vote for anyone over Obama. At this moment in the primary process, the focus is on social issues. In the general it’s going to be about the economy and jobs and the complete incompetence of the Flimflammer-in-Chief. In 2008 he didn’t have a record. In 2012 his record will be his undoing.

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  9. Calamity Jane says:

    Rick Santorum and I are old friends from school….Butler High School, Butler, PA. We were in the same home room for 5 years. Played some baseball together. His father worked with the VA hospital in some capacity and the family moved to Mundelein, Illinois for Rick’s senior year at Carmel High School.

    I think Rick will have an uphill battle on his hands for the nomination, but I will say that if you know Rick, you know that he is like a pit bull….Once he gets his teeth into an issue, he won’t let go…..I thought he was a very effective Senator for Pennsylvania…..(unlike the waste-oid Casey whom we’re not sure that ever shows up to work)

    As another classmate said to me of Rick…”Everything was a damned debate with him!”…. Translation….At least he is passionate and believe his position on issues.

    Hmmmmmm….If Rick gets elected, maybe I’ll be Secretary of the Interior….I do have some rather unflattering photos of Rick from the 11th grade….RATS!!!!! I think somebody already beat me to it.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....to/239515/

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    • Calamity, I hope a fat, juicy cabinet position opens up for you if Santorum wins. Even though I can’t get on his wagon, tell him the AWD is available to be the SOB….Secretary of Barbeque!

      awd

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  10. Well, I see where the left-wing msm of all venues are going in for the attack on Santorum using this vid AWD has above against Santorum..this too will backfire in my opinion.

    The social issues are being brought up 24/7 by the msm intentionally, the social issues matter to plenty of us…but all the candidates including Santorum have also been talking about the economy, Obama destroying this country, the constitution etc…but the msm doesn’t want to stay with that…it hurts their little ears, they just can’t have that…now can they?

    Keep fighting Santorum…millions of us are with you!

    As Plante stated early this morning, “The msm grooms the democrats, the msm assaults the republicans.” ~ No words are truer!

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  11. Can we call him scintillating Santorum? And whatever became of Ross Perot? Millions voted for that nutcase who lives off government contracts. Remember Ross and the formation of Home Depot? The other guys were smart in dumping Ross. You’d think the medialeft would want to hear his take on the campaign. He seldom shut up in ’92 and ’96… Someone figured that even at “only” 15 percent, Romney paid 400 times the amount of taxes as the average person last year. I still think a 15% flat tax would be fair to all.

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  12. Rush is talking about the vid above in the blog post…the msm and others who want to bring Santorum down conveniently left out 17 minutes of this almost hour long interview.

    Typically disgusting. They do whatever they can as long as it suits their agendas…this is a prime example.

    Btw…Romney has now glommed onto this sound bite too. ~ Sad. IMHO.

    Also, there is NO transcript available for this according to Rush, how convenient. Time Rag did good work…eh?

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  13. Off-Topic ~ Is this disgusting or what?

    http://www.whitehousedossier.c.....y-16-2012/

    …and we pay for this!

    We all know what the msm would be doing if the party were reversed.

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  14. Polls come and polls go…but thought I’d throw this in the mix for the heck of it.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....29921.html?

    Hope this link works…I’ll know in a minute.

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  15. Art Vandelay says:

    Santorum isn’t going to be president. He lost his senate seat in 2006 by 17 points! How the hell is he going to win a national election?

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  16. you people should remove all sharp objects from your home because obama is gonna be re-elected and the tea party phonies are gonna be booted from congress… step out of your bubble people.

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    • meesh, do you ever say anything more substantial that blah, blah, blah? Polls show just the opposite of what you are saying. And remember, polls had Carter and Reagan in the margin of error a few days before the 1984 election. Unfortunately for you, Obama is worse than Carter!

      awd

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      • … so which poll do you believe? that’s right, the poll that you agree with. i can show you pew research, cbs or ny times polls, and they are dismissed as ‘lefty commie’ so whats the point? you present 0 facts and i’m just playing along.

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  17. The Embarrassment that is NAFTA Newt

    It seems that the Newt Gingrich officianados are intent on following a “don’t bother me with the facts” stance.

    Newt polled less than 6% in Maine. He came in last place. Rick Santorum had nearly three times the votes that Gingrich did. That is an outright rejection of the amnesty hispandering that Newt has been emphasizing in his misguided campaign.

    Rasmussen released a poll today showing that Rick Santorum is the only Republican who can beat Obama in a head to head contest.

    If Newt were a true conservative and a man of honor he would drop out today and pledge all of his support to Santorum -assuming Newt actually believes Romney is the wrong man for the job- a hard thing to imagine seeing as there is hardly a dimes’ worth of difference on policy between them- except on importing illiterate illegal aliens in the midst of an economic crisis- Newt is all for that- Romney is not.

    We have pointed out the multiple factors that would lead any reasonable person to conclude that Newt Gingrich by far the worst candidate in GOP field

    Gingrich has an abysmal record of throwing fellow conservatives under the bus in favor of enriching himself and preening before the cameras.

    Ron Paul was the Texas Chairman for Ronald Reagan back in 1976. Reagan personally taped a glowing endorsement for Dr Paul when he was campaigning in the 1980’s. Newt Gingich attempted to put an open borders neoCon up against Ron Paul. If your standard for a candidate is being a genuine “Reagan Conservative” that would mean you must endorse Ron Paul.

    I made the following factual statements that were dismissed as something “we can argue about until the cows come home”- actually there would not be much of an “argument” as each statement is a historically accurate truth:

    “..Gingrich is a committed globalist who shepherded through GATT and NAFTA for Bill Clinton. These treaties sundered American sovereignty and resulted in the hemorrhaging of millions of manufacturing jobs and the massive influx of illiterate Mexicans whose own traditional economy was shattered as a direct consequence of NAFTA. Gingrich has never once apologized for his vital role in these fiasco and indeed boasts of it.

    Did conservatives endorse pro-abortion/pro-homosexual “marriage” candidate Dee Dee Scozzafava over a TEA Party candidate? No. But NAFTA Newt did.

    Do conservatives join with Nancy Pelosi endorsing the idea of man made climate change and make commercials on behalf of this sideshow? No, but NAFTA Newt did.

    With millions of American citizens out of work and illegals FLOODING the US to take jobs away from unemployed Americans, do conservatives endorse the DREAM Act and amnesty? No, but Newt does. His Hispandering is nauseating.

    The list goes on and on. I have not even started on Newt’s profiting from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Newt is no conservative.

    His erratic behavior and hubris guarantee an election campaign overflowing with gaffes (such as his “moon base” pledge) that will be fodder for the very media Newt disparages.

    If anyone ought to drop out, it must be Newt”

    To discount the media firestorm that will be unleashed on whoever the GOP candidate will be it is madness to argue that “I do not care about what MSNBC says”- you may not but plenty of ignorant voters do listen to the managed media. Why give them a seemingly deranged candidate with a horribly checkered past?

    Gingrich has led his entire public life as a parasite. A parasite on public funding. A parasite who excortiates actual conservatives like Paul Ryan with his infamous “Right Wing Social engineering” remarks- Gingrich is a parasite on the conservative moment.

    The man is a phony and the electorate sees him as erratic and un-electable. His win in South Carolina has been repudiated by wide margins. Even his Vegas money base failed to generate any interest in him and his “sugar daddy” Adelson is cutting off the spigot of gambling $.

    Newt must go= He is an embarrassment on par with Jeb Bush and Juan McCain.

    http://elvisnixon.com/2012/02/.....-newt.aspx

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    • elvis

      It is as you say..good post, informative and a good reminder of things he has done that some of us might forget!!!

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  18. I disagree that Ron Paul doesn’t have a chance. I’ve been saying it for a long time, he in fact has the best chance against Obama.

    Santorum is an asshole. He’s just not likeable.

    Newt is a total flaming asshole.

    Mitt is OK, but he’s a guy you expect to see on TV selling you life insurance.

    23% of people think Mitt is best for the middle class. Newt/Rick are around 30%. Ron Paul polled 46%. That’s a huge number.

    And, you’re right, Santorum’s focus on social issues will absolutely murder him in the generals. R.I.P. Obama will romp him like Reagan in ’84.

    And, this: 42% have a favorable impression of Paul, vs 36% neg. He is the only GOP who has a positive number there.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11rLxqgPc9w

    Paul is the only one who seems like a decent human being. He has a fighting chance against Obama. I think he has an edge over Mitt in this regard. The other two, fuggedabodit.

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  19. Fed Up Texan says:

    If it’s Santorum I will vote for him, but he is not the best horse in the stable. I don’t really like Romney, but I will vote for him. At the moment The GOP does not have a real stud in the race, but Romney has a large organization. he has some huge baggage bu so do all the others. I am in total confusion, as some others seem to be….why social issues? How aout deficts, war, jobs…actual stuff of life?

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  20. Ricks just the thing if you want a theocracy. The guy regularly made the top twenty corrupt Senators list every year he was in office until his own people voted him out.
    I am amazed at the medias power to gloss over his image out of fear Ron Paul could be nominated.

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