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Partial transcription of a 1985 interview with a KGB defector:

“What it [ideological subversion] basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to [a] sensible conclusion in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their communities, and their country.

The demoralization process [stage 1] in the United States is basically completed already. … Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards.

As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information—with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to [the] Soviet Union and show him [the] concentration camp—he will refuse to believe it, until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes him, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation, of demoralization.

So the next stage is destabilization. This time [the] subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption—whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby—doesn’t matter anymore. This time (and it takes only two to five years to destabilize a nation), what matters is essentials: economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist/Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process would go that fast.

And after crisis, with the violent change of power structure and economy, you have the so-called period of “normalization”. It may last indefinitely. “Normalization” is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia, in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized.” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all the schmucks to bring the country to crisis; to promise people all kinds of goodies, and a paradise on earth; to destabilize your economy; to eliminate the principle of free market competition; and to put a Big Brother government in Washington, DC with benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, who will promise lots of things—nevermind whether those promises are fulfilled or not.”

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  1. I believe we’ve blown past stage 4 circa 2008.
    I also believe unfortunately that we’ve lost the opportunity to turn this once great country around.
    Pray for our grand children.
    Twas an awesome experiment, albeit a failed one.

    • I know a young lady ,whom I converse with occasionally,who never ceases to amaze me with her indoctrinated schooling. Once discussing airport security, I told her Israel is the only country in the world that does it right. Her response was ” Israel,What about the poor Palestinians?”Talking about a verbal test she had to take for her Master in History degree, I stated that verbal tests sucked because they were too subjective. Her reply was, “History itself is subjective.” I replied, Yes, just like Science and Global Warming.It blows my mind that theses sheeple don’t have the guts to Question the BS these college professors shove down their throats.God help the Republic

      • You know my oldest huh?

        • Hi Navydavy, isn’t it shameful what public schrools have done to our children and all young Americans for the past 50 or more years.It is not education, it’s public indoctrination. Entire generations of progressive sheeple.

          • You bet.

            To tell the truth, after she did a stint as a Public Educator she decided to home school.

            Interesting to see how she has morphed over the years. At least the grands are being taught properly. The oldest came close to aceing the MSAT at 16.

          • That’s great, I put my 2 sons through privet school, great results, One is an electronic tech, the other is a Geologic Engineer.Both were educated in a 100 year old building with no air conditioning and with teachers that didn’t belong to a union.

          • Sad part is that most folks these days can’t afford private education. Of course thats the way the progs want it to be.
            What’s good for the goose isn’t good for the gander.
            Case in point public ed and obama care.
            Giving the populace the ability to make a choice scares the be-jesus out of them.

          • For us it was sacrifice at home, overtime at work, and doing without personally.As far as affording private school, my wife and I felt that we couldn’t afford not to.

          • Say it aint so, responsibly raising your children as a family unit. Like us, your bride and you are a waning minority slipping into obscurity.

            .gov is extremely angry with you, report to the nearest fema camp for immediate remedial indoctrination

          • The Little Woman & I- 38 years and counting. Will be happy to meet you at the FEMA indoctrination camp.


    Indeed we have a dictator in the whitehouse a communists dictator and Joe McCarthy warned us of the sinister communists

  3. redseeingred says:

    I still have faith that we may be able to turn this around, but it will require drastic measures. The chair is against the wall, my friends.

  4. I very much agree, it WILL take drastic measures to turn this around. The politicians do not listen to the wants of the American people. They are so self-involved with their perks etc. They all need to be thrown out and we start all over again.

    Thomas Jefferson was a visionary and knew what could happen to us and it is happening.

  5. argusromeo4 says:

    I’m not sure we have entered stage 4 but we are close (is that 1 year, 5 years, 10 years?). None of the professors have been lined up and shot, yet. The ideas of Marx/Socialism/Communism are most definitely ingrained into the minds of many of the citizenry. Many of my old friends growing up spout much of the nonsense on a daily basis. But it has been hidden so well I don’t think they realize what they are talking about. I put my opinions out there but it’s a tough fight.

    The two political parties we have here are really just one-and-the-same. They do not have the American peoples’ interests in mind.

    I am an optimist at heart but it is very difficult to see where we can turn this around. I’m sort of a newb to the politics arena and never used to care. And I’m not sure what some of the solutions are but a good start would be voting out the current crop of pols…

    I think local (family, friends, and town) is a good place to start. I am starting up small parties of friends and having topical discussions to see where people stand. I don’t know if it will help at all but I figure it will be a start… I also think forums like this are good for getting ideas out there.


  6. One of the 45 goals to bring America under Communist control is capture one or both parties. Touché “The Naked Communist” by Cleon Skousen.

    • You know that Obama was the First Democrat candidate to get active support from CPUSA and they told all their people to vote for him, also the Congressional Black Caucus is mostly Socialists and they hold sway over their black constituents by promising them anything. A few more election cycles and they will have the Democrat Party sewn up.

      • Nostradumbass says:

        A few more election cycles and they will have the Democrat Republican Party sewn up.

        -fixed it for ya, they already have the democraps.


    KATE, Its all the master plans of the UNITED NATIONS,COUNCIL of FOREIGN RELATIONS,TRILADERAL COMMISION, since OBAMA is ROTHCHILDS CHOICE and supported by the CPUSA and the hollywood left that JOE McCARTHY warned us of

  8. Read Behold a Pale Horse by Cooper. Even if the UFO business is baloney the New World Order stuff scares the crap out of me.

    The good news is that behind every blade of grass there is an American with a gun, and he is thoroughly tired of this nonsense.

    Until they actually start rounding up the guns, I still have hope.

    What amazes me is that we line up every April 15th to pay for our own demise.
    Ah..COUP! excuse me, all this commie nonsense makes me sneeze.

  9. You know, if that Marine, instead of holding that umbrella would have stabbed Bath-house Barry in the ear with it, I would volunteer to soak up bullets during the Prison Break to get him out.


    Many states and counties are comming out opposed to the sinister AGENDA 21 we all need to oppose AGENDA 21