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COLIN POWELL – SHUT YOUR BIG FAT PIEHOLE!

posted by ANGRY WHITE DUDE 4:15 PM
Friday, December 12, 2008
Phony Conservative Colin Powell

Phony Conservative Colin Powell

The Angry White Dude will admit it.  I have NEVER been a fan of Colin Powell.  I saw him speak at some corporate event about 10 years ago and knew then that this guy was a phony and working the system for all it was worth.  He, like Rudy Giuliani, has made millions of dollars retelling the 9/11 story to organizations stupid enough to pay them.  AWD knows for a fact that as recent as 4 years ago, Giuliani was making $250,000 for a one-hour speech talking about 9/11.  Wonder how much of that money made it’s way back to families who lost members in the attack?  Yeah, that’s what I figure too!

Colin Powell has been almost universally worshiped by Republicans for the mere fact that he was a black Republican.  Many wanted him for President for that reason alone!  When will we stop selecting people because of their race?  For those Powell worshipers, Powell removed the veil of doubt that this guy is a fat phony and, like most blacks, can only see through lenses of race when he endorsed Obama.  Consider a 4-star general officer endorsing a candidate who wanted to withdraw funding of military operations in Iraq when we were in the middle of a war and has vowed to reduce military spending if elected.  Does this make sense?  No, Powell has shown himself to be a politician, not a statesman.  I have no doubt that he will end up somewhere in the Obama administration before its over.

Yesterday, the pompous Powell said “the Republican party must stop “shouting at the world” and start listening to minority groups if it is to win elections in the 21st century.” He went on to say that the Republicans need to look into and understand what is in the “hearts and minds” of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters.” Why should a political party see race? Shouldn’t a political party include anyone who shares its principles? Are not all black, Hispanic and Asian voters who share conservative views already welcome? This shows why Powell is such a phony. He played up to Republicans being a black conservative and used that as long as it was in his interest. His heart was never into it. When he had the opportunity to show what he truly was…..another race baiting black politician…he jumped ship as fast as he could. And the ship that he now sails is diametrically opposed to the political values that he supposedly held for 20 plus years. That ship is the USS Socialist.

The Angry White Dude says NUTS to shaping the future of the Republican party around kissing the rear ends of minorities. Many, in my opinion, are too far gone after being brainwashed for generations that they are victims and deserve endless money from the government (tax-payers). The fact that 94% of blacks voted for Obama proves this. OJ Simpson’s first trial further proves this. For the Republican party to return to power it needs to forget trying to buy support from minorities. It needs to embrace strict financial conservative principles and a smaller federal government. It needs to stop acting like Democrats. Many Republicans have tried to be Democrats and they have always lost. Democrats give away other people’s money better then anyone. Do you hear me John McCain?

Colin Powell is just another example that blacks are blacks first and Americans second. He and his ilk are the disease….race blind conservative principles are the cure!

Here is the article from the Clinton News Network (thanks Robocop for the link):

http://tiny.cc/Wz1by

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97 Responses to “COLIN POWELL – SHUT YOUR BIG FAT PIEHOLE!”

  1. AWD says:

    Terry, what is going on over there in England with the rolling over for Islam? Every day I read of someone being forced to take down their Christmas lights as not to offend Muslims, or not offering certain foods as not to offend Muslims, or having Chaplains not carry crosses as not to offend Muslims, etc. Why not have Muslims respect the Christian traditions of their new land?

    Or, why don’t you all just convert to Islam? Does anyone have any stones over there anymore?

    AWD

  2. Kathy says:

    You’re right AWD, I was having some difficulty in my choice of Words, as I have not read the book by Sewell (I think is his name).

    For instance, I do not know much about his total viewpoints nor how he arrived at his political conclusions.

    Many, (many) – don’t know the number, but many blacks are social conservatives, and Christian Protestant values. And I don’t think their issue with Republicans is that they crave large government.

  3. AWD says:

    Kathy, I think you’re right and wrong. You’re wrong where you think that blacks don’t want big government. Who has benefited from the tremendous social programs created by the left? And who has given their votes dutifully to the left? Blacks. And how have those programs worked? Right!

    I do believe that to a certain extent that many blacks are socially conservative. In regards to homosexuality, most blacks are against it. But out of marriage childbirth doesn’t have the negative stigma in the black world as it does the white. Just a few examples.

    AWD

  4. TruthHurts001 says:

    “Why not invite your intelligent, law-abiding black friends and associates to enjoy your viewpoint and assessments concerning the inherent traits of blackness. You have nothing to be ashamed of, right?”

    Kathy, I share my views with those who can handle the truth. I know blacks who agree with me, and I know blacks who disagree.

    I was once a believer in “the world as we’d like it to be”, but now I’m a believer in reality.
    The science is there for those who are willing to take off the blinders.
    http://inverted-world.com/index.php/articles/articles/the_reality_of_racial_differences/

  5. TruthHurts001 says:

    Kathy, black sprinters routinely run the 100 meter dash in less than 10 seconds.
    There has never been a single white or Asian sprinter in history that has run the 100 meter dash in less than 10 seconds.
    There has not been a white or Asian sprinter in the Olympic 100 meter finals since the 70′s, and that was a steroid-juiced Soviet.

    Do you believe that blacks are superior sprinters? Or do you believe this is just a statistical quirk?

  6. AWD the Muslims are quite powerless here. The media is just sensationalistic. Just look at the judiciary, Executive and even the legislature. Its almost exclusively white.

    Its simply lip service to assuage injustices at a greater level.

  7. TruthHurts001 says:

    This guy disagrees, and he makes a pretty good argument.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox2-Wun2dIg&feature=channel_page

  8. Kathy says:

    Truth,

    Many a time, when one *wants* to make a point… they do a one-sided Google and say ‘bingo’. You shoud know better than to look for such, regarding scientific *theory* to prove your bias, etc. That’s just too darn lazy “Truth”. If you want to go that route, then you must explore the other arguments… and they are out there. There are too many holes in your conclusions. And then when you’re done, I’m curious about your intentions and goals in your love of Aryan-esque scientific endeavor.

    So regarding these good friends of yours, who are Black and agree with you with over such things as Blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites. How about inviting them to join this conversation? Do you think that as open-minded and gracious as they must truly need to be to do such a thing… and put up with the unforseen diatribes from other AWDs apparently suffering from Testosterone or physical deficiency or over-abundance… do you think they think highly enough of your friendship to join you here, at the church of AWD? I challenge you.

    AWD…

    “But out of marriage childbirth doesn’t have the negative stigma in the black world as it does the white. Just a few examples.”

    Your right… stigma is often politically convenient and paradoxical, ie. Bristol Palin

    If you ask Blacks what they want… I doubt any would say ‘big government’ or ‘handout’. Also, a great many of Black Americans believe in the same Jesus and Bible that inspired the term ‘Protestant Work Ethic’.. a great many would say they just want things to be fair and feel they are ‘played’ by both sides politically.

  9. TruthHurts001 says:

    Kathy, my question was simple, and as I suspected, you are too cowardly to answer it. Instead of making silly, off-topic, false accusations about me “googling”…(why would I need to google something that is common knowledge?)…please muster the courage to answer my question.

    Do you believe that blacks are superior sprinters? Or do you believe this is just a statistical quirk?

    BTW, I do not know a single black person who believes that blacks are NOT superior sprinters.

  10. AWD says:

    Terry, you said, “Its simply lip service to assuage injustices at a greater level.”

    Why am I not surprised you said that?

    AWD

  11. TruthHurts001 says:

    “Your right… stigma is often politically convenient and paradoxical, ie. Bristol Palin”

    LOL Except for the Democrat assault on Sarah Palin, I do not know of a single politician in history who was ever attacked because their child had an out-of-wedlock birth.

  12. Kathy says:

    TruthHurts… (don’t it)

    OK, now you are going to do this bait-n-switch thingy to tell me that this thread has really been about sprinting.

    Scroll up Truth, you stated:
    “This results in a highly impulsive/aggressive person (it also explains greater musculature and athletic ability). When combined with lower intellect, you’ve got the perfect candidate for criminality. This is supported by the fact that black criminality is a worldwide phenomenon.”

    The above laundry-list includes what I can only conclude is considerable bias. Firstly many factors contribute to criminal behavior – and not all criminal behavior is violent. There is a lot of white criminal behavior. There is also alot of highly intelligent crime. And there are alot of unintelligent people of all colors. And why am I supposed to believe that *black* criminality is a worldwide phenomenon… as opposed to “white”, Asian, or Arabic. And for that matter… seems the Native Americans are (or once were) “savages.” How ’bout those Vikings? Are we talking just in this century, or millenia? Also, some factors other than intelligence (that you sneak into your argument) contribute, such as Culture, Ethics, Ideology, Religion, Economics, Peer Pressure, Sickness/Health, Axes to grind, Age and also… Gender. Also Right handedness, or Left. And probably a few other things. Glad to know you have finally figured out the debate over Nature/Nurture. It is a HUGE stretch to correlate this topic “criminal behavior/race/intelligence/violence” to sprinting or muscle mass. The brain, its chemistry, hormonal balances and processes, are vastly complicated…coupled with human experience, development and nutrition.

    While you have stated that you didn’t need Google to support what you believe is common knowledge, (your opinion) – I stated such, as you rattled off your links as ‘evidence’… and many can play that game. Your hypothesis is bordering on ‘racial realism’ and it courts an agenda that is unapologetically really, well… um racist.

    RE: the novelty of the ‘pregnancy card’ – there is too much irony to go around.

  13. AWD I am simply pointing out the reality. Not that I favour the state of things. There are greater injustices against Muslims in this country, so the media plays them by bringing out rediculous stories about christmas light to further infuriate ‘whites’ and heighten the polarisation.

    Its all politics. People are played daily but they never realised.

    Just like how fox news played whites into voting for Obama. Fox was in on the pie. It was so silly the republicans should have seen it.

    The pattern was. FOX news says something absurd like, “Whats the big deal about this Obama guy, I think he is just a black guy surrounding himself with a lot of white advisors” OK those guys are not that dumb. The natural reaction is disgust in progressive Anericans who began to view Obama as an underdog.

    Then you had silly accusations like, “he is a smoker” And smokers were like, ‘so what?’ All this made Obama seem like the underdog who was being unfairly criticised. And all the while the liberal media machine i swaiting to expose these childish accusations.

    People then conclude its the Republicans being silly and nasty not FOX. BINGO

    You’re played.

    Fox is a business and having an Obama president is their best interest cause conservative stations do well in when liberals are in power. So hats off to FOX.

    Long story short its the same here in England.

  14. AWD I think you underestimate the sinister nature of our secret service working clandestinely within government structures.

    These people are so evil its brilliant. There is a violent attack being launched on Islamic values. Legislation is promulgated to destroy the Muslim way of life.

    Now you find Muslims in nightclubs, smoking and drinking cause the paents have been disempowered to discipline their kids. Their culture is slowly being infiltrated and their women are being taught to ‘stand up for their rights’. Forced marriage has been outlawed even if it happens on foreign territory and the women are being encouraged to rebel.

    In all truth AWD in 25years the Muslim will be very very luke warm. Its a new generation that is very hedonistic like everyone else.

    The only thing that I think might concern you is the idea of a ‘white’ England being extinct in 45years. That, I acknowledge, will happen.Not that its bad. You have so many races here and so much inter- racial relationships that Black and White shall cease to be an issue soon. I was on the train a few days ago and I counted the number of whites. We were quite few. We are truly a multi- cultural society here, indians, pakistani’s, arabs, asians, africans… they are all here. Its actually a beautiful thing in my opinion.

  15. Kathy says:

    Oh… Terry,

    So – the whole Sean Hannity thing – you mean he’s a double-agent? Ha!!!

    You mean ALL of the MSM, especially that little FOX?

    Just WHO is played?

    “Long story short… you then say… “It’s the same here”. Well, (to me that was the Punch) I know English humor is famous. I fear you are serious, but at this point, I don’t care :)

  16. TruthHurts001 says:

    “OK, now you are going to do this bait-n-switch thingy to tell me that this thread has really been about sprinting.”

    No. It’s about the reality of racial differences, and the difficulty some folks (mostly whites, like you) have in coming to terms with these differences.
    Blacks ARE superior sprinters, and it’s NOT racist to say so, it’s a statement of scientific fact.

    http://run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p1.php
    Since the first known study of differences between blacks and white athletes in 1928, the data have been remarkably consistent: in most sports, African-descended athletes have the capacity to do better with their raw skills than whites. Blacks with a West African ancestry generally have:

    * relatively less subcutaneous fat on arms and legs and proportionately more lean body and muscle mass, broader shoulders, larger quadriceps, and bigger, more developed musculature in general;
    * denser, shallower chests;
    * higher center of gravity, generally shorter sitting height, narrower hips, and lighter calves;
    * longer arm span and “distal elongation of segments” – the hand is relatively longer than the forearm, which in turn is relatively longer than the upper arm; the foot is relatively longer than the tibia (leg), which is relatively longer than the thigh;
    * faster patellar tendon reflex;
    * greater body density, which is likely due to higher bone mineral density and heavier bone mass at all stages in life, including infancy (despite evidence of lower calcium intake and a higher prevalence of lactose intolerance, which prevents consumption of dairy products);
    * modestly, but significantly, higher levels of plasma testosterone (3-19 percent), which is anabolic, theoretically contributing to greater muscle mass, lower fat, and the ability to perform at a higher level of intensity with quicker recovery;
    * a higher percentage of fast-twitch muscles and more anaerobic enzymes, which can translate into more explosive energy.

  17. Sean Hannity only does his Job. You would be surprised that he voted for Obama.

    At one time when Obama was still an underdog they vouched for him.

    Fox anchors do what they are told, period.

  18. The more the controversy the greater the ratings. You think Fox gives a hoot if Obama becomes president. They are a business enterprise and they act in the interests of their business not Politics.

    8years of a black liberal in power will do them more good than harm.

  19. All those hate loving folk will be tuned in all night being stringed along, hoping he stumbles, hoping he falls, salivating at the very idea of his demise.

    Ask me, its going to be good business for fox news these next 8years

  20. Kathy BTW…

    I like the way you say

    “OH Terry!”

  21. Kathy says:

    Truth,

    Again, I am not referring to sprinting, nor necessarily arguing testosterone levels. I am stating to you that your long shot conclusions – concerning criminal behavior and intelligence -as if explained by testosterone is biased. I cited many contradictions in that argument for you.

    IF you AWDs were more secure in your ethics and intentions, I suggest soliciting blacks to weigh in on these discussions.

  22. Kathy says:

    Terry,

    Do you have any proof that Hannity or his ilk voted for Obama?

    I don’t quite know what to make of the Murdoch link. I thought I was a better cynic. “Why wasn’t Olberman ALL over this? – Did I miss it?” – and why do those words sting with a familiar right-ish echo? While I remember that for instance, Rush Limbaugh has stated that Democrats in office is job security (of course it is)… I also know that many of these guys have ties to the GOP.

    If your premise is that FOX (really) is ‘the Fake news’ as you describe… to manipulate viewers to the opposition in disgust… they are also recruiting voters for the Right. If I were to follow your logic where does the rabbit hole end?

    Rupert Murdoch, the CEO of News Corporation (the parent of FOX News), self-identifies as a libertarian, while Richard Parsons, CEO of Time-Warner, identifies as a liberal Republican. ***Both CEOs’ campaign contributions heavily favor Republican candidates***
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States

    From comparing surveys/watchdog groups over the issue of media fairness/bias… Even the media watchdog groups have conservative or ‘progressive’ ties.

  23. AWD says:

    You are both nuts if you don’t recognize the liberal slant of the main stream media. MSNBC is so over the top liberal that they don’t even deny it anymore.

    Fox has the market on objective, fair reporting. For every Hannity, there is Geraldo Rivera or Greta Sustern or Alan Colmes or Shepard Smith.

    At least Fox does give the other side of the story…unlike the others. If you disagree, follow the website newsbusters.org for a few weeks. They do a great job at exposing the leftist slant of the MSM.

    AWD

  24. Kathy says:

    AWD,

    I am well aware that MSNBC is unabashadly liberal… and the arguments from the right that ALL MSM is liberal – to varying degrees… as in, whether or not it’s biased to think that Katie Couric throws a mean softball or not. I have to disagree with you about FOX… but that doesn’t bother me one iota. There is a plethora of media outlets to get all sides and all biases, and editorial commentary. And there’s radio… and conservative websites, etc etc.

    But AWD… I am reacting to Terry’s surreal post about Father Murdoch and that Hannity supports Obama. I would love to hear your reaction to this.

  25. AWD says:

    I don’t know what Terry was smoking in the mosque to have written that Hannity supports Obama! I have heard Hannity’s radio program on occasion (I find it boring) and watched him on Fox. He is a dyed in the wool conservative and there is NO chance he would have voted for Obama.

    I started out the election cycle not going to vote for either Obama or McCain. AWD saw them as Obama and Obama lite. I was pretty right about that. I ended up voting against Obama and voting for Palin because I fear that Obama’s inexperience and his view of the world through rose colored glasses will get a lot of us hurt or killed.

    So yes, I think that Terry has missed the boat…something he is very good at doing.

    AWD

  26. Kathy says:

    And seriously, AWD…

    If you think that Greta has not been campaigning for Sarah Palin, and failed to mention her 2 part expose of “Who is that scary terrorist?” then, maybe you have a testosterone imbalance :)

  27. TruthHurts001 says:

    Kathy, once again you are doing everything humanly possible to avoid a direct answer to a simple question.

    My question is simple, it’s Yes/No:
    Do you believe, based on the preponderance of scientific evidence, that blacks of West-African ancestry are superior sprinters to other races?

    When you respond to a Yes/No question with things like “there are many holes in your argument”, it gives the appearance that you are afraid to answer the question, which is quite straightforward.

    I’ll even do the honor of answering first, then you can follow…

    My answer:
    YES, based on the preponderance of scientific evidence, and in agreement with decades of research, blacks are without question superior sprinters.

    And in spite of the fact that a lot of white folks are very uncomfortable talking openly about actual, measurable differences in races, facts are never racist.

    Okay Kathy, give it a try, remember it’s Yes/No.

    Thank you.

  28. Kathy says:

    AWD,

    … and Murdoch?

  29. AWD says:

    I personally believe that Murdoch is only about money! But he has the good sense to let the main stream media divide all the liberals while Fox has a lock on all conservatives. For the life of me, even if I was a liberal TV exec, I don’t understand why they let Fox run away with 50% of the viewing population! Wasn’t Murdoch schmoozing up with Hitlery a while back? Who knows his politics and who cares? But he is smart enough to have the only fair but conservative network on TV. Of course, you can find more fair/objective content here at AWD! lol

    AWD

  30. Kathy says:

    Truth,

    I already addressed your passionate (and dishonest) assessment of what this discussion is about. (That is, your first reference/analogy about white sharks and black men and violenct criminal activity)

    which morphed into your passionate case-study that blacks are better sprinters. I personally have not studied this claim and I don’t take things at face value. However, I implied -I thought rather clearly- that even IF blacks are better sprinters… it is a far, far, and dangerously irresponsible leap to go on to suggest the other points you were making (concerning race/intelligence/violence).

  31. AWD says:

    I’m going to weigh in on this. Some readers here believe that behavior is determined by genetics. I believe they have a strong argument. In most countries, blacks do make up a sizable number of criminals. Most every black run nation is poor and underdeveloped. But I believe that environment and education can affect behavior. Yes, there have been white sprinters but the vast majority are black. Blacks do seem to perform better athletically but there are black scientists and surgeons..albeit not very many. I just know that if I adopted a black child out of the ghetto today, that child would not act like a fool, commit crimes, etc….at least while he was living with me. The lessons/training he would receive would hopefully guide him to seek an education and the rewards of this great country. I don’t know if behavior is 100% genetics or environment. I just know that too many black children fall into the bottomless pit of crime and prison. The black race CAN do much better.

    AWD

  32. TruthHurts001 says:

    “that even IF blacks are better sprinters… it is a far, far, and dangerously irresponsible leap to go on to suggest the other points you were making (concerning race/intelligence/violence).”

    So then…why is it “dangerously irresponsible” to consider genetic differences in race/IQ/crime, but NOT “dangerously irresponsible” to consider that blacks are indeed better sprinters?

  33. Kathy says:

    Truth,

    Firstly, as I stated *IF* concerning the sprinters.

    Number of things here…

    Dangerously irresponsible
    1. science – as in, poor objectivity and reasoning.
    2. agenda – as in oppressive policies based upon

    The comparison of making objective studies about the body’s physiology… ie, do obese people make better runners, Do blacks have darker skin, more muscles? is very different than “Do blondes have more fun?”

    The honest objective scientific study of something such as race/intelligence/violence the brain and hormones is a far more complex study/pursuit, even if pursuing this purely physiologically. But the topic involves much more than physiology, more than culture, too.

    While science is and will continue to head into controversial territory, on studies such as this there is also etchic/moral responsibility. You know… morality… invisible to the microscope, subjective/objective quest.

  34. TruthHurts001 says:

    “Firstly, as I stated *IF* concerning the sprinters.”

    But that’s the point. You didn’t refuse to consider it’s factuality based on such a discussion being “dangerously irresponsible”. Although you won’t go so far as to admit what science and genetics have proven…that blacks are indeed better sprinters…you don’t deny its plausibilty.

    However, you won’t even consider the plausibilty of racial differences in IQ and crime, you’ve deemed such as “dangerously irresponsible”.

    This is known as a “double-standard”.

    BTW, decades of IQ testing has established that East Asians and Jews are superior to whites intellectually.
    My life’s experience is perfectly consistent with this finding.

    Do you consider me an anti-white racist for agreeing?

  35. Kathy says:

    Truth,

    We still don’t have a cure for cancer. My mother had breast cancer, and my sister had a malignancy. My sister pursued genetic testing to see if she carried the ‘cancer’ gene in order to determine if she should have surgery or other therapy. As it turns out, my sister does not have the cancer gene. The odds are that I’m at high risk for also having breast cancer… but if this is not based on genetics… ?

    I am stating to you again, the brain and genetics alone in all their glorious mystery and complexity is different than a discussion about muscle mass, let alone breast cancer.

    Even with regards to IQ results by racial demographics there are other factors than solely genetics. For example, early child development, and nutrition. Did you know that Feral children – who have been isolated early in life, lose the ability to learn speech. One can ‘learn’ how to achieve better results on IQ tests, by exercize of certain thinking/visualization modules. Asian children, from a very young age go through a uniquely Asian culture-based childhood development.

  36. Tim says:

    Truth,

    I have to agree with you and disagree with you. While I do believe that genetics does have a lot to say about “who” we are, I also believe that environment plays just as big a role. I think that IQ, body type, and athletic ability are determined by genetics. I believe that our environment and the way that we are brought up plays a bigger role in the way we look at crime. I was raised to think that breaking the law is not a good thing. Then again I was also raised to work my ass off and not wait for the government or anybody else to give me a hand out. There are lots of people these days looking for a hand out white and black. Every problem our society has can be traced back to one thing. We have become a “drive-thru” society. We would much rather go to McDonald’s than prepare a meal for our children. I attended an event with my 7 year old daughter a few weeks ago to learn about the math curriculum at her school. We were the only ones that showed up from her class. That is the problem!

  37. TruthHurts001 says:

    Kathy, you are stating facts that I’m well aware of. I’ve never argued that race is the SOLE determinant of human behavior/IQ/achievement, only that it is a significant contributor.

    Cheers.

  38. Kathy says:

    Truth,

    I’m not against science, nor do I wish to censor its curiousity of such topics, but strongly feel that other factors, such as I mentioned matter, and am highly suspicious of how oppressive agendas might exploit data.

    I read (after your post) a Native American’s weigh in, on the fact that NOW… some government program funded by tax dollars is targeting their community based on some/such data. It strongly encourages young men to marry (to keep down male aggression caused by testosterone). Have you AWDs had the Federal government approach you out of concern for your testosterone levels?

  39. AWD perhaps I made the tea a bit too strong this morning. We all have our brief moments of madness don’t we? Some maybe not so brief, which why I understand you.

    Cheers

  40. Kathy says:

    AWD,

    Last question: your telling me that you voted, not for McCain, but for Palin b/c you either trust her experience more (as you mentioned Obama’s inexperience) – but then you said b/c Obama’s rose-colored glasses scare you. You think he will endanger Americans.

    You’ve stated previously you are not ultra-religious, and re: abortion, you are not a single issue voter over pro-life. That said, HOW is it that when politicians state “I believe Jesus will come in my lifetime” that this concerns you less than Obama’s hopeful/optimism?
    I totally support that faith is a personal issue and freedom to be protected, re: Palin’s faith or any fundamentalists… But, do you not know that the major world-view of Evangelical Christians that say “I believe Jesus will come in my lifetime” also believe a very detailed, ever revised list such as 1. First the Antichrist will come and make a treaty with Israel for 7 years… then halfway thru it he will break it. and there will be Armageddon. When Palin answered (without blinking) her readiness to attack Russia, (do you not know the apocalyptic implications). How can you think that Palin would not be dangerous in this regard? I much prefer a careful approach to intelligence, advisors, and that includes diplomacy, when appropriate.

  41. AWD says:

    Kathy, what Palin believes in her personal faith is just that…her personal faith. I don’t care. I have said that I don’t get caught up in the abortion issue. I don’t hold it against Palin that she believes what she does and who knows..she could be right. As for Palin raining down nukes on Russia, that isn’t going to happen unless they launch some first…no matter what she believes. That being said, I believe Evangelicals paint themselves in a corner by not accepting good, smart, honest politicians like Mitt Romney just because he is a Mormon. I’m sure that Mormons have voted for years for Evangelicals and Baptists. That is my problem with the religious right.

    Obama scares me because I believe he is a crook. His past friends scare me. I believe he is a very good con man. And I don’t trust liberals in anything. I’m a conservative in case you didn’t know.

    AWD

  42. Kathy says:

    AWD,

    I got-it that you are a Conservative. BTW, I guess I am a liberal, w/ some conservative-ness. I see it that Liberals are idealists that also believe there is virtue in the Christ story, whether we take it literally or as myth and by creed at least are a heck of a lot less judgmental. Tolerance is good. Personal faith, yes its personal. I respect that. But, AWD… organized religion has its impact in society. And I disagree that when a large portion of political Christians believe they are living in the last days, and are pro-Israel mainly b/c of the book of Revelations and the pastors are selling it, that this does not matter. The same will say “Oh, Israel is a democracy” and know nothing of the Palestinian Christians, for instance.

    I think you hit what is driving Americans… FEAR. You mentioned yours over Obama, but didn’t offer evidence, just you think he’s a crook (by association).

    Before this election got to its heated momentum, there were TV advertisements by various groups, in bipartisan spirit trying to ignite what I think many people are thinking…. Dammit, you Republicans and Democrats, quit the crap and start doing your jobs. You wrote you think Repubs should do everything at every opportunity to be difficult and contrary. AWD, this makes me mad.

  43. AWD I think Kathy has got you here. You mention that Obama is a crook but have not an iota of evidence. The Feds gave him a ‘clean bill of health’ yet you insist he is a criminal.

    You sound like a fairly well thought out man but when you suggest Republicans should do all they can to disrupt the democratic administration I fail to realise the virtue in this. It is just childish playground sour grapes…. Now I think you ought to apologise to the lady for briefly losing your mind and offer to buy lunch

  44. AWD says:

    Kathy, you lie down with dogs and you wake up with fleas. Obama’s friends, plus the fact that he is from the most politically corrupt city in the country tell me all that I need to know about him. He has not even been inaugurated and the first scandal has erupted.

    Plus, there hasn’t been an investigation yet of his untold millions in untraceable campaign funds. I have no doubt they came from the Middle East and China. Call me a skeptic but Obama is as dirty as the Clintons.

    AWD

  45. Even now you still have not presented any facts. Just assumptions that you hope are true.

    That you would even hope for such things says a lot about your heart.

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