2012 Elections, Red's Corner

Open Post: Take-aways from Last Night’s Debate & My Take on Trump


megyn kelly triggeredAWD’s still throwing the houlihan in Sturgis, so he asked me to pop in with something. I’ve been catching some of the debate highlights here and there. Interested to hear your guys’s take…


I figured I’d stir the pot a bit with my own take on things. Briefly:

Just as Romney was the GOP-anointed nominee well before officially being the nominee, so ¡Yeb! is the anointed one this go-around. I.e., it’s a done deal–so long as there are no spoilers, ¡Yeb! is the nominee. That means that all the other schmucks up there are simply foils. As obedient Republican Party members, they’ll willfully play this role.

Enter The Donald. Now we’ve got a spoiler–someone with his own billions to spend that isn’t beholden to Conservatism Inc.’s deep pockets. Ergo, he must be destroyed. ¡Yeb! must be the nominee, and Trump refuses to play ball!

Subsequently, all arms of Conservatism Inc. have been relentlessly trying to destroy the man since he started getting popular by boldly doing the forbidden: speaking poorly of the third-world invasion of the USA. Fox News, NY Post, NRO, Weekly Standard, RedState, etc. have been firing away non-stop since he captured the public imagination.

Megyn Kelly appears to have gladly assumed the role of GOP Inc. attack bitch, going right for Trump’s jugular last night. (Fortunately, he is a smarter person than she and her libtarded attacks failed to inflict any damage.)


So am I rooting for Trump? I ask you: Why not?

Sans Trump, ¡Yeb! will be the nominee. Anyone (outside of the retarded Acela Corridor “right”) knows he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of defeating Hillary. So, were the GOP to get their way, they’ll do what they always do: lose to the evil Democrats.

With Trump as GOP nominee, he might actually stand a chance against Hillary.

With Trump as 3rd-party candidate, he’d likely insure a Hillary win, but then, again, that’d happen anyway. But, who knows–maybe he’d actually be a viable 3rd party candidate. I have no idea at this point, and the only people certain about it (to the negative) are the retarded cuckservatives of Conservatism Inc.–which is a pretty good indication that there’s a distinct possibility Trump could win.

Now, would he make a good President? No idea. Maybe. Maybe not. In any event, per TX Secede David’s comment below, it’s all just a circus to keep us cattle entertained while the country gets looted and they leave us with the rope. I.e., Trump, Hillary, ¡Yeb!, whomever–won’t make a damn bit of difference. Unless and until we start hanging every single one of the traitors who brought us to this perilous point from the lampposts, things will only continue to get worse.

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  1. like Trump&Carson Megyn Kelly is an obnoxious bitch. I emailed her today and told her so!!

  2. Rand attacking trump in the beginning for trump doing the same thing his father has been doing for decades, lol rand clearly has no principles, then in the end saying that he went to Ferguson and Detroit lol hes ‘s done.

    Carson is done

    Chris Christie is done .

    John kasich will replace jeb, if bush implodes

    rick perry talking about Ronald raven, idiot.

    Scott walker hurt himself with the abortion question

    disappointed that trump didn’t attack anyone, he was to timid for my taste.

    That’s some of my opinions on the debate

  3. Txsecededave

    Txsecededave didn’t watch the dog and pony show last night. It’s all staged theater. “They” try to make it an us against them game. Like watching a football game. In the end, whether a dem or a repub wins, the BS ends up in the same big central federal, over controlling government basket. And nobody wins. We will still be living in a socialist dictatorship. Txsecededave is done with the left vs right paradigm and is for a free and independent, constitutional republic, nation of Texas.

  4. W…T….F!!!
    with a seven million member strong NRA demographic not one question about the second amendment,
    you know whats bullshit, that was bullshit!

  5. Disgusted Caucasian

    This is an absolute blast….Trump bashes Rosie ODonnell

    Megyn Kelly wears more makeup than a street walker.

  6. Lynn Sykesl

    Foxnews-with the exception of Brett B.- were out to trash the Trump. But their play was clumsy and therefore obvious. Fire Kelly and Wallace. Both no better than the hack-jobs at MSNBC

  7. Megyn is smart and beautiful…..but comes across as a biotch.

    I do believe that was the rub when she left “Hammer” and got here own show……

    Again posted elsewhere but applies…..Trump has to scare the hell out of the REpubliCAN’TS…..

    I got this in an email……seems about right to me……sorry that it’s so long…….but worth the read…


    “Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few. And I know why.

    I wrote a book titled “The Murder of the Middle Class” about the unholy conspiracy between big government, big business and big media. They all benefit by the billions of dollars from this partnership, and it’s in all of their interests to protect one another. It’s one for all and all
    for one.

    It’s a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich — everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We’re the patsies. But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. I’ve never seen them this outraged, this vicious, this motivated or this coordinated. Never in all my years in politics have I seen anything like the way the mad dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump.

    When white supremacist David Dukes ran for governor of Louisiana, even he wasn’t treated with this kind of outrage, vitriol and disrespect. When a known fraud, scam artist and tax cheat like Al Sharpton ran for president, I never saw anything remotely close to this. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened like never before.

    Why? Duke was never going to win. Sharpton was never going to win. Ron Paul was never going to win. Ross Perot was never going to win as a third-party candidate. Those candidates either didn’t have or couldn’t spare the billion dollars it takes to win the presidency. But Donald Trump can self-fund that amount tomorrow and still have another billion left over to pour into the last two-week stretch run before Election Day.

    No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business and political elite understand that Trump is no joke. He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.

    It’s no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy The Donald. No, this is a coordinated conspiracy led by President Barack Obama himself. Obama himself is making the phone calls and giving the orders; he’s the ultimate intimidator who plays by the rules of Chicago thug politics.

    Why is this so important to Obama? It’s because most of the other politicians are part of the “old boys club.” They talk big, but in the end they won’t change a thing. Why? They are all beholden to big-money
    donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations and multinational corporations like Big Pharma or Big Oil. Or they are owned lock, stock and barrel by
    foreigners like George Soros owns Obama or foreign governments own Hillary with their Clinton Foundation donations.

    These run-of-the-mill establishment politicians are all puppets owned by big money. But there’s one man — and only one man — who isn’t beholden to anyone. There’s one man who doesn’t need foreigners, or foreign governments, or George Soros, or the United Auto Workers, or the teachers union, or the Service Employees International Union, or the bar association to fund his campaign.

    Billionaire tycoon and maverick Donald Trump doesn’t need anyone’s help.

    That means he doesn’t care what the media says. He doesn’t care what the corporate elites think. That makes him very dangerous to the entrenched interests. That makes Trump a huge threat. Trump can ruin everything for the bribed politicians and their spoiled slave masters.

    Don’t you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama? Don’t you wonder why John Boehner and Mitch McConnell talk a big game, but never actually try to stop Obama? Don’t you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings, yet has never tried to defund Obamacare or Obama’s
    clearly illegal executive action on amnesty for illegal aliens? Bizarre, right? It defies logic, right?

    Well, first, I’d guess many key Republicans are being bribed. Secondly, I believe many key Republicans are being blackmailed. Whether they are having affairs, or secretly gay, or stealing taxpayer money, the
    National Security Agency knows everything.

    Ask former House Speaker Dennis Hastert about that. The government even knew he was withdrawing large sums of his own money from his own bank account. Trust me: The NSA, the SEC, the IRS and all the other three-letter government agencies are watching every Republican political
    leader. They know everything.

    Thirdly, many Republicans are petrified of being called “racists.” So they are scared to ever criticize Obama or call out his crimes, let alone demand his impeachment.

    Fourth, why rock the boat? After defeat or retirement, if you’re a “good boy,” you’ve got a $5 million-per-year lobbying job waiting.

    The big-money interests have the system gamed. Win or lose, they win.

    But Trump doesn’t play by any of these rules. Trump breaks up this nice, cozy relationship between big government, big media and big business. All the rules are out the window if Trump wins the presidency. The other politicians will protect Obama and his aides — but not Trump.

    Remember: Trump is the guy who publicly questioned Obama’s birth certificate. He questioned Obama’s college records and how a mediocre student got into an Ivy League university.

    Now, he’s doing something no Republican has the chutzpah to do. He’s questioning our relationship with Mexico; questioning why the border is wide open; questioning why no wall has been built across the border; questioning if allowing millions of illegal aliens into America is in our best interests;
    questioning why so many illegal aliens commit violent crimes yet are not deported; and questioning why our trade deals with Mexico, Russia and China are so bad.

    Trump has the audacity to ask out loud why American workers always get the short end of the stick. Good question.

    I’m certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michelle Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare website. By the way, that tab is now up to $5 billion.

    Trump will ask if Obamacare’s architects can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying. He will ask if Obama himself committed fraud when he said, “If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it.”

    Trump will investigate Obama’s widespread IRS conspiracy, not to mention Obama’s college records.

    Trump will prosecute Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover up Benghazi before the election.

    How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election?

    Obama, the multinational corporations and the media need to stop this. They recognize this could get out of control. If left unchecked telling the raw truth and asking questions everyone else is afraid to ask, Trump could wake a sleeping giant.

    Trump’s election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Trump would dare to prosecute. He will not hesitate. Once Trump gets in and gets a look at “the cooked books” and Obama’s records, the game is over. The gig is up. The goose is cooked.

    Holder could wind up in prison. Jarrett could wind up in prison. Obama bundler Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money. Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails, or for accepting bribes from foreign governments while secretary of state, or for “misplacing” $6 billion as the head of the State Department, or for lying about Benghazi.

    The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison. Obamacare will be defunded and dismantled. The Obama crime family will be prosecuted for crimes against the American people. And Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters.

    Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved — just for fun. That will all happen on Trump’s first day in the White House.

    Who knows what Trump will do on Day 2?

    That’s why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump. That’s why we must all support Donald. This may be our only shot at saving America, uncovering the crimes committed against our nation and prosecuting all of those involved.”


    • excellent post……….

    • this article is very persuasive……..damn persuasive……….

      I’m a Ted Cruz guy but this article posted by “WAR” has me thinking…………….

      • Maybe Mr. trump will see the wisdom of actually having a true conservative, who understands how Washinton works/does not work. I have noticed that Senator Cruz keeps his powder dry when it come to Trump.

    • Ed357 amen 1000%! What your post says is exactly what I’ve been thinking all along.
      The despicable a$$holes at FOX tried to sandbag Trump and it didn’t work. I still like Ted Cruz and he’s the only one I would support if Trump doesn’t make it. However if they shut him out and he decides to run “indi” I’ll probably vote for him. That jackass, John Kasich shot himself in the foot when he commented about accepting the black robed tyrants ruling on Sodomite marriage. Trump is the man to stop the criminal cabal in DC

  8. Let`s get real shall we????
    This site`s motto is about killing PC lies…..Megyn Kelly is a attention whore….and Fox News is no better than CNN for there spin….long gone are true journalist…..it` all about being a star …getting someone to buy your latest book….I say BullSh!t……report the freaking news and shut the hell up with your opinions!
    It is way clear that Fox News and the Repub Rhino establishment are out to discredit Trump..
    and this little up roar over Kelly vs. Trump thing will tie in well with the war on women spin that you will hear all over the News and web..Hillary will use it..hell even Carly has jumped on that band wagon being all anti-Trump…
    The evil ones in power will do and say any thing to stay in power and the MSM is their biggest tool to do that…..
    It is like being locked in a room with used car salesmen all pushing their spill….
    TV is pure propaganda..endlessly eating brain cells
    Help me Help me I`m HYPNOTIZZZZED…!!!!
    You can not bullsh!t da bullsh!tter..and Trump has made a fortune by being a king bullsh!tter…this pisses off the MSM ..the corrupt government cause he is better at it that they are…..
    Trump for me is entertainment…he says somethings that have long been needed saying….
    Will he be the next president…No….that choice has already been made for us……we only live in an illusion of choice….we the people no longer realize that we have the power to put an end to all this…we have been brain washed into sheep…..
    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…

    so pop another beer ..turn on that sports program…and make sure ya don`t miss those leggy blondes like Kelly on the news to give ya your next Feeding of the Sheep…
    oh and have a nice day…

  9. I’m not a Trump guy but I’ll give him his due……..and I do intend on voting for this man if he’s the nominee……..

    if the republitards nominate another “rino” and Trump goes third party I intend on voting for him even if it means Hildabeast will win…….another rino simply means we still lose the country…..it makes no difference if a rino wins or a dhimicrat wins……either way the country is lost so voting for Trump as a thrid party candidate won’t change a damn thing……….

    as far as “legs and lipstick” is concerned she can suck my d*ck……..I’ve had it with all of those fake conservatives at FOX…….O’Reilly, Krauthammer, all of them……they’re all a bunch of sell-outs……..

    the dumb-ass republitards are making a big mistake…….a big mistake…….but I guess that’s not anything knew…..they don’t give a sh*t what we think out here in the hinterlands anyways……….

    fu*k them all……………..all of them……………..

    and now Eric Ericson has dis-invited Donald Trump from the “red state” conference in Atlanta for calling Miss Kelly a “bimbo”……..these dumb-ass republitards are cutting their own throats and ours in the process……………..

    • Amen Bluto and F*** Eric Erickson! Years ago I used to post on Red State but the bastards were ate up with PC nonsense and I stopped going to the site.

  10. Benefit of the debate, 24 million people watched it and where introduced to the Republican candidates.

    Disadvantage of the debate, structurally it was a poorly run debate and lacked impartiality.

    I have never seen a debatable issue that had ten diametrically opposed positions, but then I am a simple man lacking in imagination and I am sure T.V. Journalist know better than I.

    My wife was working (for work) on the computer while I was watching the debate. She does not have the time to concern herself with politics because the company has to run and she ‘s the key employee that makes it happen.

    Because bills, pay checks, interest payments, and TAXES have to be paid.

    So some people like her have to work into the night so that others may benefit from the fruits of her labor.

    However she stopped work and cheered at the big screen when Donald Trump dick slapped Ms. Kelly in the mouth after Ms. Kelly’s arrogant and personal attack on a presidential contender.

    Then my wife asked me who these people where and what was going on. Then she asked me who I was going to vote for.

    I told her I didn’t know because the only man fit to lead our great country was in Strugis right now and was not taking part in the debate.


  11. the more these republican bastards pile-on Trump the faster these republican bastards are pushing me into the Trump camp….and their actions make me hate republitard sons-a-bitches more and more…… and I already hate these sons-a-bitches beyond measure……..


    • Bluto, I hope the “fix” is not in already and the Hildabeast will get in. Think about it. How did this muslim bastid get in????? Scares me!

      • Joy……..if the republitards nominate a rino it makes no difference if Hildabeast wins the election……if Jib Bush wins there is no difference between him and Hildy…….either party will destroy the country…and we will not be able to recover our republic……..

        the republitards are in bed with the crony capitalists and are intent on destroying this republic just as much as the dhimcrats will destroy it…….the very same people who are supporting Obongo are the very ones suporting McConnell, Boehner, Jib Bush, Orin Hatch, Schummer, Pelosi and the rest of these traitors……..they are all in on it…..all of them……they are one and the same………if ever the saying was true “there’s no difference between the parties” it is true now……..

        we must nominate a conservative that can with-stand the onslaught of the corporatists that have every single member of congress and the white house in their pockets……..Jib Bush is just as bad as Hildabeast and is as bad as Obongo himself………. either party that wins the election and we lose…….this is the last nail in the coffin……..

        if Trump has to run as a third party that’s ok with me because at this point it makes no difference if Jib or any rino or pretty much any republican wins or if Hildabeast wins it makes no difference…….if a republitard rino wins we still lose our country……and that’s a “guarantee”……it’s guaranteed……. we go down just as fast with a republitard win……Hildy and the republitards are one and the same…….every last one of them is corrupt and in bed with the corporatists…………

        as of right now the country is lost……period……..we have lost the country…….and I see the only one who can with-stand the Chamber of Commerce corporatists is Trump…….I’m not a Trump fan……never have been……but they can’t control him…..they cant buy him……they can’t force him to do their bidding……that’s why they are all lining up against him………..the outcry against Trump is gong to become deafening……they have to destroy anyone they can’t control………

        it’s a forgone conclusion if any one is beholden to the big money donors then we lose no matter who it is………as much as I hate Hildabeast, and she turns my stomach, a republitard that is bought and paid for will sell “us” down the road just as fast and as much as Hildabeast will…..or any other dhimicrat……………….

        we live in perilous times, Joy………….

        • Great post Bluto. I will vote for trump. He can’t be bought! The repubics for the most part ares just as bad as the demorats. It will take years to recover from Ovomit. God help us!

  12. Bwahahahahaha………..liberal logic………how much more of this crap can we take…………


  13. Hey, AWD! I hope you’re having a great time up in Sturgis at your biker rally.

    By the way, if you saw the GOP debates – I have a question to ask you about your love affair with Ted Cruz.

    Did you hear Ted Cruz make the statement that he was A-Ok with the 7.2 billion plus third worlders immigrating to America, as long as they did it the ‘legal’ way?

    We talk about how Obama, the anti-White, anti-Western, Communist-Marxist-Socialist is evil on steroids for lusting to ‘fundamentally transform’ America into a third world hell hole and yet, here we have a RINO clown on the so-called right who sees nothing wrong with allowing the entire third world to flood into the United States as long as they do it ‘legally’?

    You cannot have or maintain a First World nation when you fill it up with a third world caliber population. Ted Cruz and Obama BOTH are in agreement – they both share the same lust to ‘fundamentally transform’ America by destroying the last vestiges of White, Western Civilization.

    Ann Coulter nailed it best the other day during an appearance on the loathsome cuckservative Sean Insanity’s TV show when she pointed out that LEGAL immigration is a bigger problem than illegal immigration, because in either case, we are allowing the same kinds of incompatible and indigestible peasants from the third world to move into the USA. In either case, legal or illegal, we are still handing to the vile and demonic Democrats a permanent one party dictatorship – which I promise you, the DemonRats will use to impose full blown, totalitarian Communism upon America that will be 100 times more frightening than what happened when the Bolsheviks seized control of Russia in 1917.

    Still have that warm fuzzy for Ted Cruz, AWD?

  14. It is amazing to watch the spin….and equally amazing to watch the very scripted race for POTUS…
    bread and circus for sure to the masses….
    in the end the Repubs will have Jeb…the Demos Hillary….both just different sides of the same coin owned by Central bankers…..
    Does anyone really think any of the people running for POTUS give one damn about you?….
    Now it is fun to watch Carly become the new sweet heart of Fox news after slamming Trump….she is smart and knows she needs the boost of the MSM and women..so she is playing up the War on Women bull shit..
    she talks a damn good game ..got to give her that..but for me her real self is starting to show thru…
    Trump has upset the old apple cart and in the end it is all about his ego from now on out….
    as I have said I really enjoy the Trump show….he brings out the real side of the corrupt system…
    I ask myself ,”of all those in the race …who will make a difference to my life …my family….???
    If there is a hell…and a just God …then surely there must be a very special circle of hell just for Politicians….
    and that room next door is for the MSM……
    Two questions one should ask in this life…#1: What am I willing to live for…#2 What am I willing to die for?
    Hope you folks are having a peaceful Sunday ..hang tuff…

    • look up Megyn Kelly interview with Howars Stern. she is a potty mouth twit! BITCH

      • Howard

      • As for Megyn Kelly being a potty mouth – its worse than that. There is a video on youtube of her, which I cannot say for sure is legitimate, but in the video Megyn ‘I am such a hot fox’ Kelly is on camera and she supposedly lets go with a massive fart. And, then, after this disgusting and incredibly gross and unladylike behavior, she cracks up as if she is some immature, juvenile teenage boy who farts in class because he wants to be seen as the class clown.

        Passing gas in front of members of the opposite sex is something that I categorize as uncouth, rude, obnoxious, crude and beyond the pale. Perhaps I am old-fashioned and have traditional values, but that is a rule that I feel goes hand in hand with being either a gentleman or a lady.

  15. there’s some of us out here that will pay you $40 to take her……

    please…..name your price………..


  16. the democrat message to the country……………….


  17. in other news……Left creates monster that turns on it`s self and eats his socialist arse…!!!
    Notice the helplessness in Bernie`s expression as he stood quiet by allowing this Black scum to rule him and shut down his event…

    priceless pic…
    I noticed more riots and looting in Ferguson a year to the day the gentle giant thug was sent to his reward….even more shooting took place….same o same o…
    and if you want to see just how much love the blacks have for whites …..who are the real racist here…

    Fox news as I said is now going into the full Spin -Zone on Trump….I have to ask myself why have they done this…they rally round Kelly like MSNBC did Brian Williams…..
    Fox Rhino News Head quarters…..lmao……
    What a Bull shit world we live in….
    oh well folks have a wonderful day today and stay safe …

  18. No longer have any use for Megan Kelly. The country is sinking and she wants to know if Ben Carson would use water boarding if elected president. Just a pretty bitch who wanted more TV time than the candidates on stage.

    Kudos to Trump… he would not be my first choice but he would be damn better than anything in the Dem party and much better than the mongrel in the White House.

  19. …………………………..damn if this doesn’t make perfect sense to me………..


    • Bluto, do I have to be a Facebook member to see your links? Whenever I try one, I get a page that says content unavailable.

      • JMV…………not sure…..didn’t know anyone was having any problems with these links………

        go to facebook and key in patriot nation…….that’s where I get a lot of these……they’re great……..

        Bigtimer never had any problems with bringing up these links……it’s possible one might have to have a to be on facebook but I wouldn’t think so………..

        let me know if it works……..

        • Yeah, every time I try, it dumps me onto the same page that says content temporarily unavailable, then tries to get me to sign up.

          I have managed to avoid anything to do with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or any other social networking site where the main subject of the day is what someone, whom I do not know, had for breakfast. I don’t really understand the point, maybe I’m just too old.

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